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88fingers
Member
I'm getting a large diaphram condensor tomorrow and am on a low budget, but I think I have enough money to get a shock mount with it. Is it pretty much a necessity, or can I do without for awhile?
Michael Jones
New member
If you can afford it, get it.
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randyfromde
New member
Shockmounts are usually ~$20 or so (I think). Over your life of recording, it will make a much greater difference than it's dollar value. If you're gonna step up to the condensor mic level, I think you owe it to yourself to get the full sound improvement out of it.
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Scinx
Mechanical Monkey
Some mics come with a free shockmount..so make sure you know one way or the other before you buy one...but they are recommended
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Dot
New member
A shockmount can help isolate the mic from vibrations from various sources such as foot tapping, rumbling amp on the floor, and vibrations in the floor from sources external to your recording room - such as a truck driving by or an elevator shaft in a building.
But for the most part shockmounts should not be considered a "necessity". And if you have a high-pass filter – either on your DAW or in an external channel strip – set at around 90Hz or so, low-end vibrations won't be a problem anyway.
If you're just getting your first LDC and it doesn't include a shockmount, don't feel like you have to run out and get one. I used a Neumann TL103 for over a year without a shockmount and never had a problem.
Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions
But for the most part shockmounts should not be considered a "necessity". And if you have a high-pass filter – either on your DAW or in an external channel strip – set at around 90Hz or so, low-end vibrations won't be a problem anyway.
If you're just getting your first LDC and it doesn't include a shockmount, don't feel like you have to run out and get one. I used a Neumann TL103 for over a year without a shockmount and never had a problem.
Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions
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DJL
Self Banned
I'd get the shock mount... it's better to be safe than sorry.88fingers said:
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Strange Leaf
New member
I've recorded a lot of tracks with my TLM103 lately - no shockmount. I can tell you, when someone walks in the next room, it sounds like T-Rex from the Jurassic Park movies in the control room speakers.
When we hit rec, no one was allowed to move.
I'm getting a shockmount.
Especially since I'm gonna try it out as a room-mic for drums. Don't want just another track of kickdrum.
When we hit rec, no one was allowed to move.
I'm getting a shockmount.
Especially since I'm gonna try it out as a room-mic for drums. Don't want just another track of kickdrum.
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acorec
Banned
DOT Wrote:"A shockmount can help isolate the mic from vibrations from various sources such as foot tapping, rumbling amp on the floor, and vibrations in the floor from sources external to your recording room - such as a truck driving by or an elevator shaft in a building.
But for the most part shockmounts should not be considered a "necessity". And if you have a high-pass filter – either on your DAW or in an external channel strip – set at around 90Hz or so, low-end vibrations won't be a problem anyway.
If you're just getting your first LDC and it doesn't include a shockmount, don't feel like you have to run out and get one. I used a Neumann TL103 for over a year without a shockmount and never had a problem."
Like EVERYTHING else, depends on YOUR situation. It is a total gamble to not use a shockmount. Success in your tracks may be great. But, that one magic track with a nice rumble in it is a waste of talent and time. People who charge $$$ for recording use shockmounts always. If you believe that you really don't need a shockmount, then cancel your house insurance. How often do you need that?
But for the most part shockmounts should not be considered a "necessity". And if you have a high-pass filter – either on your DAW or in an external channel strip – set at around 90Hz or so, low-end vibrations won't be a problem anyway.
If you're just getting your first LDC and it doesn't include a shockmount, don't feel like you have to run out and get one. I used a Neumann TL103 for over a year without a shockmount and never had a problem."
Strange Leaf said:I've recorded a lot of tracks with my TLM103 lately - no shockmount. I can tell you, when someone walks in the next room, it sounds like T-Rex from the Jurassic Park movies in the control room speakers.
When we hit rec, no one was allowed to move.
I'm getting a shockmount.
Especially since I'm gonna try it out as a room-mic for drums. Don't want just another track of kickdrum.
Like EVERYTHING else, depends on YOUR situation. It is a total gamble to not use a shockmount. Success in your tracks may be great. But, that one magic track with a nice rumble in it is a waste of talent and time. People who charge $$$ for recording use shockmounts always. If you believe that you really don't need a shockmount, then cancel your house insurance. How often do you need that?
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Strange Leaf
New member
As I said, I'm getting a shockmount.
Innovations
New member
Check the included contents and the specifications. Some mics include a shockmount in the package and other have an internal shock suspension system. In the latter case you usually can go without.
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ron82
New member
sorry, this is kind of a topic switch, but i have a question about (external) shockmounts.
i have the MXL V67, and the SP B1, they both came without shockmount. and i cant find the shockmount for these mics anywhere in the online-shops in my area.
i'm using them as overheads for a drumset, and just use the mic clips that cam with them, and a cheap mic stand (millenium)..
i didn't record the kit seriously yet, but did loads of testing.. but until now i didnt hear any "disturbing" noises on the tracks..
what i wanna know is, is that just something u wouldnt do, recording a kit without shockmounts on the overheads? what effect does/can it have if u do that?
sorry if thats a stupid question, but as i said i didnt experience anything critical or unwanted noise yet (but i know nothing thats why i ask..)
oh yea, the room is carpeted, i guess thats an advantage..
i have the MXL V67, and the SP B1, they both came without shockmount. and i cant find the shockmount for these mics anywhere in the online-shops in my area.
i'm using them as overheads for a drumset, and just use the mic clips that cam with them, and a cheap mic stand (millenium)..
i didn't record the kit seriously yet, but did loads of testing.. but until now i didnt hear any "disturbing" noises on the tracks..
what i wanna know is, is that just something u wouldnt do, recording a kit without shockmounts on the overheads? what effect does/can it have if u do that?
sorry if thats a stupid question, but as i said i didnt experience anything critical or unwanted noise yet (but i know nothing thats why i ask..)
oh yea, the room is carpeted, i guess thats an advantage..
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SmattyG
New member
For people like me, that NEED to stomp while they play, a shockmount is a godsend. You can stomp pretty damn hard before the vibrations will get picked up if you have a good one.
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David Artis
Active member
88fingers said:
Yes - it is definitley worth the investment.
Besides they look cool.
eeldip
New member
depending on the mic, the problem can go farther than just 90hz.
on really loud sources a mic will sympathetically resonate and impart that tone to the capsule. a shockmount will help mitigate this.
some LDCs seem to have this problem more than other mics, just because they are larger and have a body design that likes to resonate (1" wide hollow tube). plug your mic in and tap it with your finger. remember that tone. then close mic something like a floor tom. hear that tone again? you got problems.
try again with a shock mount. seems to help a little bit. also going inside and treating the mic with dampening material helps.
my CAD e300 had this problem till i lined the inside with foam and made sure i shockmounted it. my oktava 319 is very much so guilty of this problem- and i cant seem to get anything in there that makes it better. shockmount seems to help though.
on really loud sources a mic will sympathetically resonate and impart that tone to the capsule. a shockmount will help mitigate this.
some LDCs seem to have this problem more than other mics, just because they are larger and have a body design that likes to resonate (1" wide hollow tube). plug your mic in and tap it with your finger. remember that tone. then close mic something like a floor tom. hear that tone again? you got problems.
try again with a shock mount. seems to help a little bit. also going inside and treating the mic with dampening material helps.
my CAD e300 had this problem till i lined the inside with foam and made sure i shockmounted it. my oktava 319 is very much so guilty of this problem- and i cant seem to get anything in there that makes it better. shockmount seems to help though.
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Thom IV
New member
If you can afford the shockmount, buy it (first make sure that you can return it). Take it home and use it. Then try the mic with the standard 'mic clip' that came with the mic (most condensers these days come with a mic clip that allows you to attach it to a standard mic stand).
If you notice a good difference with the shock mount, keep it. If you don't, return it.
My AKG shockmount makes a huge difference. My Oktava shockmount does squat.
Tom
PS I'm keeping the Oktava shockmount because, like David Artis said, "they look cool". Besides, it was only an extra $10 when I bought the mic....
If you notice a good difference with the shock mount, keep it. If you don't, return it.
My AKG shockmount makes a huge difference. My Oktava shockmount does squat.
Tom
PS I'm keeping the Oktava shockmount because, like David Artis said, "they look cool". Besides, it was only an extra $10 when I bought the mic....