saturation plug ins

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What are these saturation plug ins?

Are they overdrive preamps with a Ceiling limiter
on them?


How can they Saturate the tracks without overloading
or clipping the track or audio?


Whats the function of the saturation plug ins?


Whats the block Diagram inside a saturation plug in ?
is it a overdrive preamp with a ceiling limiter?
 
I have no clue what you mean by Block Diagram. A saturation plugin is an emulation of an analogue device that is saturated, be it a tape machine, some tube thing or anything else really. Most come are tape saturation plugins. They are much like hard limiters that also add warmth to a track.
 
whats inside A saturation plugin?


The Schematic flow chart

is it a preamp or compressor?
 
Oh my God.


Someone, please ... Tell me Walters didn't just ask for a schematic for a plugin.

:D
 
It is neither a preamp nor a compressor, although more of a compressor than a preamp.

How a saturation plugin works on the inside I don't know, and that's basicly what is the power and the secret of the plugin. No one will be able to tell you that unless they made the plugin themselves, and even then it would be more math than what us audio guys are able to handle (me at least).
 
Halion said:
It is neither a preamp nor a compressor, although more of a compressor than a preamp.

How a saturation plugin works on the inside I don't know, and that's basicly what is the power and the secret of the plugin. No one will be able to tell you that unless they made the plugin themselves, and even then it would be more math than what us audio guys are able to handle (me at least).

Math in a plug-in can either be horrible or pretty simple, depending on the plug-in.

I suspect you could do a really simple soft-sat that would probably sound decent by doing what I would call a "pressure-type" limiter. Imagine a baloon. The more you fill it, the harder it pushes back. Do the same thing in your plug-in up above some limit, and it should tend to roll off the highs and add warmth.

Basically, for a floating point range of... say -1.0 < v < 1.0, it becomes an equation by parts something like


for -0.8 < v < 0.8, v_output = v_input
for -1.0 < v < -0.8 v_output = -log_k(abs(v_input))
for 0.8 < v < 1.0, v_output = log_k(v_input)

for some small base value of k. Then you might add a more traditional design of limiter at some higher level just to make sure (or truncate for a nice buzzy effect, either way).

That said, I've never written a plug-in to do this, so I'm not sure if anybody has ever written one in that way.

Whoa. A quick search on soft saturation on musicdsp shows someone doing something an awful lot like that.... So maybe I'm not nuts....
 
walters said:
What are these saturation plug ins?

Are they overdrive preamps with a Ceiling limiter
on them?


How can they Saturate the tracks without overloading
or clipping the track or audio?


Whats the function of the saturation plug ins?


Whats the block Diagram inside a saturation plug in ?
is it a overdrive preamp with a ceiling limiter?


Oh god, walters strikes again.

Walters...did you ever figure out how to capture "the tape bleed thing"? :rolleyes: :D
 
xfinsterx said:
Oh god, walters strikes again.

Walters...did you ever figure out how to capture "the tape bleed thing"? :rolleyes: :D

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is the same guy that was over on gearslutz!?

That was the funniest thread I've ever read and I don't even know why. Nonsense!
 
Have to give him the award for the most brainless posts. I thought I had that one in the bag.... :(
 
Rokket said:
Have to give him the award for the most brainless posts. I thought I had that one in the bag.... :(

Heh. I have some doozies myself. Goes with the territory.
 
Rokket said:
Have to give him the award for the most brainless posts. I thought I had that one in the bag.... :(
do you not know what a block diagram is... sounds like a bunch of adolescents speaking out of turn...

walters' post isn't brainless at all... although the question would be better posted in a Plugin Programming Forum.

-kp-
 
Sonixx said:
sounds like a bunch of adolescents speaking out of turn...

Sounds like youve never read any of the past walter posts. ;) :rolleyes:

Right or wrong the shit is comedic genious.
 
xfinsterx said:
Sounds like youve never read any of the past walter posts. ;) :rolleyes:

Right or wrong the shit is comedic genious.
you're right... but that's besides the point on this question...

-kp-
 
Sonixx said:
do you not know what a block diagram is... sounds like a bunch of adolescents speaking out of turn...

walters' post isn't brainless at all... although the question would be better posted in a Plugin Programming Forum.

-kp-
It's not the question that I am questioning. It's his motives. He has posted several off the wall questions lately. If he wants to learn, why not do some research? I have asked questions on here, just like all of us have. But I found a lot of information out on my own just be using Yahoo! or google.

And why do you need to know how a plugin is designed? If you can figure out how to use it, use it...

Just my two cents. I'm sorry if I pissed you off.
 
Sonixx said:
you're right... but that's besides the point on this question...

-kp-

Yeah, who knows maybe walter is like rain man or something lol! :D
 
Rokket said:
It's not the question that I am questioning. It's his motives. He has posted several off the wall questions lately. If he wants to learn, why not do some research? I have asked questions on here, just like all of us have. But I found a lot of information out on my own just be using Yahoo! or google.

And why do you need to know how a plugin is designed? If you can figure out how to use it, use it...

Just my two cents. I'm sorry if I pissed you off.
oh... I see... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Sonixx

do a search of walters' posts, you'll see why there is frustration, this is an endless cycle of nonsensical posts, people have offered to help him word things better, and have repeatedly suggested that he google some of these questions for better explanations. But to no avail, there is no possible positive outcome in a walters post. personally, i read them, then I take a dump and go to bed, like watching the evening news, it's a habit. don't try and understand these things, just sit back and enjoy. :)
 
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