Samson Mic Kits?

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zacanger

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Feh. Matched C02s aren't that bad as overheads, but those tom mics just, to me, sound blah. Of course, you're talking to the guy who uses MXL and Nady mics, so what do I know? :)

Seriously, 2 well placed C02s, along with your D112 in the kick and SM57 on the snare should give you a very usable, good sounding kit. Unless you're going for the heavily processed, drenched in reverb tom sound
 
Well, not really the drenched in reverb broadway type sound, but I just want to have a lot of options open to other drummers. I usually just do a four mic approach, but if someone wants close-mic'd toms or whatever I want to people able to provide that.
 
i'm waiting on a (yes, singular) c02 to get to my house. hopefully only having one will be good enough. ive liked the samson products ive bought before, so i thought id give this one a try. ill let u know how it works out.
 
Zac, I would pass on all the drum mic kits and build your own .

The Joe Meeks JM27's make a great set of O/H mics.
You can pick up a matched set new on ebay for less than $100 shipped.

Use your D112 for the kick.
SM57's on toms and top of snare. (I very rarely use a mic on the bottom of the snare)

That setup will be a lot better than any of the drum kits.
 
Get an Audix Fusion set. Not much more expensive... damn good set of mic's for the price.
 
I do like the Audix Fusion kits better than the Samson, Nady, or CAD kits. (The Samsons come in second on that list for me)

The problem with any of those kits is that if you are really serious about recording good sounding drums, you will quickly out grow them, and then need to buy something better later.

You already have a D112 for your kick (the kick drum mic is often one of the weakest points in any budget kit), and a 57 for your snare, both of which are keepers. So I think improving your overheads shoud be your first priority.

You mentioned wanting tom mics, so for just a little bit more, you could go with more 57's (which are always handy), or something like the Sennheiser e604's (you can often find good deals on 3-packs of these), and you'll hang on to those for a long long time. This would be a much better long term investment

Best of luck!
 
My real problem is, I'd like to be able to have a seperate mic for each tom, and my kit has five. So that's another $500 out for toms, plus overheads. I'd be spending almost this much with the Samsons, though, so if the consensus is more 57s and generally building my own mic set, that shall I do.
 
I fully recommend the CO2s. With proper placement, you can get a very clear and accurate image of the kit. Never had a problem with mine and they always reproduce the sound accurately. But as with most mics, crap in, crap out. Placement and a decent sounding kit is everything with these things.
 
zacanger said:
My real problem is, I'd like to be able to have a seperate mic for each tom, and my kit has five. So that's another $500 out for toms, plus overheads. I'd be spending almost this much with the Samsons, though, so if the consensus is more 57s and generally building my own mic set, that shall I do.
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Look into the GLS-es57 or the MSH-1C for inexpensive tom options.
 
scrubs said:
Look into the GLS-es57 or the MSH-1C for inexpensive tom options.
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Would the GLS-es57 be reliable? I am planning on getting some MSH1C's eventually, but they weren't top of my list.
 
scrubs said:
Look into the GLS-es57 or the MSH-1C for inexpensive tom options.
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Both are great choices if your on a low budget.

I have 1 MSH-1C and I am thinking about getting 2 more.
 
if you're going budget, get those joe meek jm27s that were mentioned earlier and a couple gls es57s for toms. i'll be surprised if you're disappointed with that setup.
 
My JoeMeeks are my main o/h mics. I pick them over my Oktavas.
 
Yeah I've heard the C02's aren't bad.

Look into the Audix F15. When I said the Fusion kit above I forgot to mention that the overheads are the best part of the pack. I'm not sure if you can buy them outside the packs though. You could then have (assuming you buy the Fusion 6):

Kick: D112
Snare: SM57
Tom 1 and 2: Audix F10
Tom 3 and 4: Audix F10
Floor Tom: Audix F12
Overheads: Audix F15

You can use one mic for two tom's and it won't hurt. You should probably look into doing that as opposed to one mic per tom. 5 toms would be a bastard to mix and you'd need to be pretty good at it to get a good sound.
 
This is true, especially since I usually just do a four-mic approach. My long-term goal is to be able to effect each drum in certain ways, since I sometimes do some recording for an industrial act that wants electronic sounds with the acoustic drums. But that would be a bitch to work with.
 
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