Sample of bad mixes

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I understand that this may take some time, but can someone please post a link or post examples of some poorly mixed songs or poorly recorded tracks that were sent in to get mastered that were sent back to be fixed?

I would like to compare it to my stuff to see if my stuff will make it for mastering. When I get close to finishing a mix, I get quite scared to send it to a ME in case it gets sent back for major fixes. I know I know I know....in this field, this will happen. I am getting used it now.

Again...NEWBIE and NOVICE here.
 
Haven't gone over them lately, but I know I have at least a few "questionable" mixes on my "Audio Samples" page...
 
Not to sway your descision in any way, but if your content is at a point where the mastering enginner might possibly send it back, what is the purpose in having it mastered?
 
bozmillar said:
Not to sway your descision in any way, but if your content is at a point where the mastering enginner might possibly send it back, what is the purpose in having it mastered?
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This is my first time mixing and editing. I have never sent in anything to get it mastered. To my novice ears, the mix sounds good. Nothing pro. Because of this, I am hesitant about my work.
 
if you stick it up in the mixing clinic, people will have good feedback for you.
 
Not to be a smart guy or anything here but if you want an example of poor mixing or mastering you can listen to the Metallica And Justice For All CD. Musically I love it but for some reason their is a mid bass from the guitars throughout the CD that makes me want to commit murder. Again not trying to be funny just giving my opinion of what should not be done.
 
Ctrl_Alt_Dlt said:
I understand that this may take some time, but can someone please post a link or post examples of some poorly mixed songs .....................

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Yes.
Here is the list:
FM radio stations
Newbury Comics: 90s-2000s releases.
 
When you are paying a Mastering Engineer they usually aren't going to "send it back" unless there is something horribly wrong with the file (clipping, drop outs, etc) . They generally will take your money and make it sound as good as they can. You might find an ME willing to make mix comments so you can fix something but they would have to spend their time listening to your stuff to help you instead of just doing more mastering for paying clients.

I'm not saying ME's are greedy jerks or anything but they are trying to make a living and you don't make money by sending stuff back. If you want some constructive feedback on your mixes then post in the MP3 clinic on this BBS.
 
TexRoadkill said:
I'm not saying ME's are greedy jerks or anything but they are trying to make a living and you don't make money by sending stuff back. If you want some constructive feedback on your mixes then post in the MP3 clinic on this BBS.
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Yeah, that's why I was staying out of this thread too - my understanding is that one of the challenges of being a mastering engineer these days is that so often, you DO get horrid mixes that you have to somehow salvage. I don't hear too many stories about people just sending them back...
 
I'm not speaking for everyone - And I know there are plenty of "hacks" out there that will just churn out whatever comes through the door - But I contact clients regularly with questions and options. If there's distortion, mix level issues, artifacts, anomalies, etc., I want to know if they're there "on purpose" of if it was something that was overlooked. Hardly a week goes by that I'm not 'on hold' waiting for a project to come in that's simply rendered at 'more normal' levels.

I don't want to do everything twice, I don't want disappointed clients. If a simple phone call or e-mail can bring the caliber up a notch, I'm making it. Most reputable engineers I know would do the same.

THAT SAID -- Things like the MP3 clinics and what not are certainly a 'front line' that should definitely be taken advantage of. There isn't enough time in the day to do 'mix critiques' on everything that comes in. The client should be basically happy with the mixes before they wind up at any mastering facility. Heck - They should be happy with the mixes if they're doing it themselves (but that's for another thread).
 
Yup....places like the mp3 clinic are a great resource.
But I was mainly lookin in here to see if my mixes were on display as a bad mix sample. :p
 
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