running fx into mixer

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How do I run my stereo Lexicon LXP-1 reverb into my Alesis Studio 32 mixer (that I haven't gotten yet, but is on the way, and I want to be ready). I know it should go in the channel insert, but only has one input and the effect is in stereo. Any other ways to run fx would help too. thanks, I love this forum, it's helped me narrow down and decide on almost every piece of equipment I'm purchasing.
 
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If you are planning to use your Lex in a channel via insert, you will need a "Y" TRS/Send-Receive cable.
Plug the "stereo" part of the cable (The plug known as
Tip,Ring,Sleeve) into a channel insert of the 32 and the
2-"mono" plugs into the In & Out of the Lex. OR,using
balanced cables, you can hook your Lex into the 32's Aux Send and Return for across the board signal processing with the amount of signal "wetness"controlled" by the Aux pots located on each mono channel of the 32.
 
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Thanks Q, you've helped me alot so far.
How are "balanced" cables different from regular instrument cables? Still 1/4"? With many fx (including the lex), there are stereo out's and in's, adding up to 4 jacks altogether - Using the balanced cables, I'm only using one in and one out. Is this compromising my signal? How do I make the most of the stereo capabilities? What is the "standard" way this is done, as I hope to be running more outboard gear as I go along. ALSO... you recommended the rnc compressor, and all I can find are good reviews. When I read the info on their web site, they mentiond unbalanced outs, and possibly a "converter" to run into a balanced board. Something like that. What's that about? I guess the compressor whould be what I run into the channel insert intead of fx. In this case, I would need the y trs/send-receive cable? Again, what about the stereo in's AND out's. Can I run the compressor into my brain? I'm thinking about this stuff too much.
 
There are basically two ways that processors and effects are usually connected to a mixer. This is because there are basically two types of processor - 1/ signal controlling processors, 2/ signal enhancing processors.

The first group, signal controllers, are basically correction tools. Some of the things in this group are 1/ Compressors, 2/ Noise gates, 3/Equalizers, 4/De-essers.

The second group, signal enhancers, contains things like 1/ Reverb, 2/ Delay or Echo, 3/ Chorus, 4/ Flange etc.

Because the first group is used to correct problems with the sound they are usually connected to the problematic channels insert point, this is because the insert INTERRUPTS the signal, only letting you hear the output or corrected sound, you dont want to hear the original signal if it has problems.

The second group are used to add colour and shape to the sound of a mix and can be used on more than one instument at the same time, you dont need to interrupt the original signal, only to add a little extra to it. These are usually connected to the mixers (Post Fader) Auxillary sends, with the channels 'aux' used to set how much of each effect is added to each channel.

There are two types of stereo effects units, the first will probably only be referred to as 'stereo' in the manual, whereas the second should be identified as 'True Stereo' or 'Dual mono'.

The first type, even if it has two input jacks, actually uses a mono input signal, it then splits and processes the split signal slightly differently for each channel, producing an artificial stereo output. Many of the older effects units are of this type.

The second type actually has two completely independent channels which are processed seperately, whatever is input to the left channel comes out the left output only. Sometimes the two channels can be used for completely different things.

With the first type you only need to use one input, so you can connect it to one (post fader) auxillary send, if you want the simulated stereo output you connect both outputs either to the corresponding stereo auxillary return, or if you want to be able to EQ the signal, to a stereo channel line in (or two mono channels).

For true stereo /Dual mono units you will need to connect one channel to one aux send and the second to a seperate one (aux 1 & 2 or 5 & 6 etc). You can return the outputs to the board in the same way.

An unbalanced cable is a two connector cable, one 'hot' one 'ground', like a guitar cable. Balanced refers to the way the connectors are hooked up rather than the type of cable, eg. 1/4 and RCA are both unbalanced cables.

A balanced cable uses three connectors, and is designed to reduce noise that might be picked up in long cable runs or bad enviroments. Basically the 'hot' signal is duplicated, then sent down the third connector with the signal waveform inverted, where there is a peak on the hot there is an exactly opposite valley on the other line. Now here's the magic part, any noise that is picked up by the cable will be the same on both the 'hot' or 'high' and the inverse or 'low' cables, so when the signal arrives at its destination the piece of equipment receiving the signal flips the 'low' so that it is the same as the 'hot', this means that the noise is now out of phase, the two signals are then added together and the noise cancels itself out! Brilliant!
 
regular cords have 2 wires,plus and minus.Balanced cables have three wires,plus minus and ground.The "balanced" part means that any noise induced into the wire goes out of phase with itself and gets cancelled.In other words,lots quieter.You can make these cables for just a couple of bucks.TSR means tip,sleeve,ring where the three wires are connected.I bet your mixer has a little schematic telling you how to wire that right by the insert point.

Tom
 
Thanks for that info guys, that clears much up. Now...
If I have a "true stereo/dual mono" effect and I only run one channel in and out, (say, to save aux's for other fx) will I get desirable results, or should I always run true stereo when I can? How do you know what fx are true st/dual mono? What if you don't have the manual?
Re: Channel inserts - They use the same jack for in & out? Not like aux sends?
ALSO... What do you use balanced cables on? Everything you can? Or only certain effects, etc...? Is there ever a case when you DON'T want to use balanced cables? I've probably seen them, but wasn't aware of their use. Do you recommend one brand over another? Thanks tons. I'll should be "up-and-running" in about a week, then I'm sure I'll have a whole different set of questions.
 
Most of the true stereo units are 'smart' enough to know when only one jack has been plugged in and will then use that as the input for both channels, if you look on the back it should say something like 'Input L', 'Input R (Mono)'. If not there will be an option in the software of the unit to route the inputs however you want. As a last ditch test you can plug a signal into the left channel and listen to the output of the right channel, if you dont hear anything then it's true stereo.

Channel Inserts use 'insert Cables' , these are wired with a stereo 1/4" at one end and 2 mono 1/4"s at the other end. The mono ends are wired normally, hot to tip, ground to sleeve. At the stereo end the two grounds are connected together to the sleeve, one hot is connected to the ring and the other hot to the tip.

Use balanced cables whenever possible, ordinary XLR mic cables are balanced.
 
Ok, the RNC compressor that I'm looking at reads like the left (mono) in, serves as the in/out to run into a channel insert. Is this correct? Thanks for the info, you guys have all made me spend more $, but with better results. At least I know WHY I spent more.
 
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