running a condenser through pedals - noob question

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hey guys,
ive just joined and had a simple question.

I have a Rode NT-1000 mic which I'd like to run through some effects pedals, now I dont have the power supply for the mic, I usually run the mic straight into my interface which has phantom power. But is there a way to add pedals to the chain and use the phantom power, or do I need the power supply for the Rode?

thanks for reading.
 
What kind of pedals are we talking about? If these are guitar pedals or something like that you are going have impedance issues and unless you match the impedances, it will never work. Of course, it would be interesting to run those pedals as inserts if the impedance works . . .

You have to have phantom power on your mic, and that might damage the pedals (I have no idea really, just a concern to keep in mind) but it might not. Give us a little better picture of what you have and what you want to do.
 
soul1 said:
hey guys,
ive just joined and had a simple question.

I have a Rode NT-1000 mic which I'd like to run through some effects pedals, now I dont have the power supply for the mic, I usually run the mic straight into my interface which has phantom power. But is there a way to add pedals to the chain and use the phantom power, or do I need the power supply for the Rode?

thanks for reading.
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mmmm.....phantom power thru/via an fx pedal.....I don't think that'll be a good thing for the pedal, and I don't think that phantom works within a TS situation....

some mods I see...mmmm.....yes.

What about a rackmount FX unit, with XLR type in/outs?....

But, as said above, give us what you want to do.
 
I have several guitar fx pedals, and I just want to run them through the mic at the same time. We're talking delays, echos, etc. either recording, or through my amplifier for practice.

I'm used to always applying the fx after Ive recorded the part, I just wanted to use them live as I was recording.

Would I be better off using a different mic? like a vocal mic?
 
If your interface has inserts or sends, then you would run those out to any external effects.

If not, then you basically just need a dedicated, external mic pre. And you would just run the line output from that to any effects pedals. And out of there to a DI (instrument) or line input on your interface.

Yea, you'd have all sorts of crazy impedence issues going on, but nothing that can't be worked out. Make sure you're going unbalanced line out of your mic pre to the pedal at a low enough volume so as not to clip it's input. And going out of the pedal in to the interface's instrument / DI input. And if it doesn't have one, then you'd want to get one (DI box).

Would go something like this:

mic pre > unbalanced line out > effect pedal

effect pedal > DI Box > mic input on interface
 
how about if I run a SM-58 through the pedals and then into the interface, would it have the same problem?
 
You're still going to have impedance issues. Not only that, but a typical mic level is -50 dB-ish and a typical line level signal is like -10 or so. That means you would need a ton of gain to get thing sounding loud enough. You really need an outboard pre to boost the signal before sending it to the pedals. That means that changing to an sm58 doesn't buy you too much extra in terms of gear/convenience.
 
if ya absolutely try this thenThe Only Way it can possibly work is as an insert... and then it wont work very well... but try it anyway you're not gonna give up on the idea...
 
soul1 said:
how about if I run a SM-58 through the pedals and then into the interface, would it have the same problem?
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I have a simple solution:

Use a mixer, plug SM 58 into mic input, plug your pedals into the effects-loop of the mixer, and connect the mixer to your amp [or computer]


Not sure if your were talking about recording or live- application?

Another way to do it is as follows--this really is a live-application--:

Plug SM 58 into mic-input mixer [YES you will need a mixer!!, but you can have a very, very simple one really,-- or something like a basic TASCAM 4 track recorder which could function as a mixer--]. Plug output mixer into your pedals, then connect pedals to your guitaramp.

Complex, Weird? No not really and it will work. Probably better to use the effects-loop on the mixer for your guitareffects, as the overal sound would be cleaner.

Notes: When you would use a mixer, you might as well also plug your guitar into the mixer and use your guitaramp as PA, so your vocals and guitar and effects both come from the mixer, and the mix will be amplified by your guitaramp. Keep your guitaramp clean as all the effects will come from your pedals which go through your mixer and not from the effects--that is if there are any effects on the amp-- from your guitaramp.

Just experiment with your set-up to see what works for you!
 
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