Room treatments are stupid.........

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So a few months ago i posted a comment on a thread about, IMO,how some people seem to get carried away with room treatments. I mentioned that had been following the Foo Fighters posts on facebook as they were recording their new alblum in Dave Grohls garage and house.

Well a couple of people of course went nuts that i had the nerve to disagree with their thoughts on proper acoustic treatments and even didnt believe, i think, that the foos were doing this record in a garage/house. But at the same time they were nice enough to point out some of the minimal treatments they did see in the pics. My point was yes there were some bass traps and some other wall treatments but all in all it was minimal, something that anyone could build on their own and certainaly not a "studio" grade acoustical treatment.

After that there were no more posts.....

Anyhoo here is a link to a video of Dave Grohls garage and house where they recorded and mixed their upcoming alblum.

Now i realize these guys are using the best of everything as far as gear goes {analog}
but that just makes my point. Over the top room treatments for people doing home recording is a waste of money. Spend your money on gear make some bass traps get moving blankets and get recording.

Here's the link:Dave Grohl - Exclusive Studio Tour - NMETV Latest Music Videos and Clips | - NME.COM
 
haha, did you actually watch that video?!? The room "upstairs" where he said they mixed and monitored everything is covered in acoustic treatment. And on top of that he said he wanted the album to sound like he recorded it in his garage and not be 'slick'. I missed your original thread, but I'm sure it was sweet.
 
Ok sure there's 'over the top -in excess of what you might need. But then there's not having either enough simple control, let alone variation!
At some point (fairly quickly! it seems you'd become rather tired of the same pile up of room tone, humps and echo on damned near every instrument on every track? Hell that's even assuming you have an interesting sounding room.
( you haven't noticed this?
 
I took note of the fact that most of the recording was done in the garage. Low ceiling, concrete floor, etc
and based from the pictures, really basic , but effective sound treatments. I cant wait to hear what the recording sounds like.
 
When it comes to acoustic treatment, the mixing space is much more critical than the tracking space IMO. If you want a recording that sounds like a garage, then a garage is a good place to track. Want it to sound like a church or a gymnasium, then find a church or gym. If you want to tweak and mix your tracks so that they'll sound the way you want out in the "real world", then you'll want an acoustically accurate room to listen in.
 
When it comes to acoustic treatment, the mixing space is much more critical than the tracking space IMO. If you want a recording that sounds like a garage, then a garage is a good place to track. Want it to sound like a church or a gymnasium, then find a church or gym. If you want to tweak and mix your tracks so that they'll sound the way you want out in the "real world", then you'll want an acoustically accurate room to listen in.
Ding, ding, ding. This.


lou
 
note to self...file under "couldn't get a clue even when dipped in clue musk and paraded in a field of clues doing a clue mating dance".
 
When it comes to acoustic treatment, the mixing space is much more critical than the tracking space
That's the point the OP is missing, in his obsession in trying to be right about something he knows nothing about.

You can record anywhere. If you want a certain sound, record in the best environment for that sound.

But I guarantee you that they'll be MIXING the album in a very well-treated room. It's treating for MONITORING that matters.

What a waste of a thread. :rolleyes:
 
2nd note to self.. "too bad the engineers wasted all that time at RCA and CBS studios from 1921 to the early 70's evaluating acoustical response and it's bearing on recorded material. Had the OP been there, we might still be listening to recordings that sounded like they were recorded in garages. "
 
I got the yearn'in for the sound of a nice cee-ment stair well!
Tsshhhhhhhh.......... :)
 
Hey rami watch the video. It was mixed in a bedroom i think....

And I admit i cant mix very well....my room is treated enough yet.
 
Room,room,room,room,room,room,room,room,room,room,room,room. It's everything!!!! Both recording and mixing.
 
Illustrates the need to read a bit before posting proclamations. I'm in the process of setting up, now in 2 rooms, that are conveniently next to one another, one for tracking and the other for mixing. First thing I noticed was the extent of the treatment in the upstairs room in the video.
 
The op is only fooling himself if he believes there was no treatment whatsoever done to that garage space.

If you wanna hear some vintage garage, check out Frank Sinatra from the old Columbia studio in NYC. The reverb on those records was recorded in the underground garage of that building.
 
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