Room Treatment- ALL OR NOTHING?

[Mr Music]

Basicly this is what Im noticing so far...

I have 4 corners done with top to bottom 4 inch bass traps
i have 2 absorbers (1 with 2 slants) on EACH wall paralell...breaking the bouncing echo (there is still half of the wall that is bare)
i have my whole back wall (the wall thats being hit with all the waves) covered with 2 inch to 4 inch traps...all covered...

I hear much less reverb and echo, but i still hear it pretty well and its still a very big problem...so not considering any info, can u just tell me...

is it ALL OR NOTHING?

basicly until i put more side wall absorbers (boxes with slats and gaps to break bouncing of waves from wall to wall) and more bass traps, THE REVERB/SLAP BACK/ECHO wont dissapear?????

im about 3/4 way there....im hearing a difference as far as monitoring goes...but when recording/tracking- i can hear the room slap back pretty well in my recordings....


The question does not involve info (eventhough i already gave a lot of info through out my building)

the question is= will it usualy still suck until you have FULLY COVERED EVERYTHING?

is it possible that its reflecting off the ceiling that bad....cuz its the least covered....or maybe that the room is only 17 by 9.....
but ya the side walls are 1/2 covered....so im guessing thats whats bouncing the waves around....

i will try and finish the room
(eventhough i want to hear more on this before i do)

when i finish it, if its still like this then i will get VERYYYYYYYYYY DETAILED and so u guys can help me out...

when u treated your room- was it still not as good even if you treated all the most important places? but werent done?

 

[bpape]

Mixing and tracking are 2 different targets for treating a room. To get it to be 'right' for both, consider some movable absorbers.

Absorbtion is most effective when spread throughout the space (over and above reflection points and bass absorbers). What you may find will help would be some diffusion to help break up the slap. Sounds to me like most of what you're still hearing is not bass issues but things that diffusion can help with - without killing the room TOO dead.

 

[mixsit]

...is it possible that its reflecting off the ceiling that bad....cuz its the least covered....

In addition to Bpage's good info.. an untreated ceiling can do hard reflections and carpeted floor-to ceiling can be a source of flutter for sure.
Wayne

 

[bpape]

I'm guessing that you likely have close to enough in the space - just in the wrong places. I've NEVER seen a room that required (or benefited) from having the whole rear wall covered. IMO, you'd be much better off to leave the reflection points on the rear wall covered as well as the bass absorbtion and take the rest and use it on the ceiling (again at key locations) and spread throughout the room to maximize efficiency.

And BTW, ALL the walls, floor, and ceiling get hit with waves - many BEFORE and harder than the rear wall. Don't forget the front wall too. Sound below 400Hz or so radiates as a sphere so your earliest reflections in that range are actually off the front wall, followed by the side walls, followed by the ceiling, followed LAST by the rear wall.