Roland V-Vocal

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For those interested, Cakwalk has posted some before and afters using the new V-Vocal.
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/sonar/Upgrade/vvocalextras.asp

Maybe it's me, but I certainly wouldn't be using these examples to hype my product. The first one sounds horrible after using the v-vocal. The pitch/note change is highly obvious (and I'm not even sure it's in tune).

The third one is pretty bad as well.

Pitch correction beyond a few cents is usually pretty obvious with most intonation correcting software - so I don't know that I would hold this against Roland. However, were it my product, I certainly wouldn't be using these as examples of what it can do. If that's what it can do, personally I would leave it uninstalled. :D
 
If you listen close to the autotuned example, it sounds like they autotuned the example first, to make it sound flat, then they unautotuned it to make it sound better.

In either case, I agree that these are terrible examples. Not recorded well and the music sounds like a bad 80s band.
 
Middleman said:
If you listen close to the autotuned example, it sounds like they autotuned the example first, to make it sound flat, then they unautotuned it to make it sound better.

In either case, I agree that these are terrible examples. Not recorded well and the music sounds like a bad 80s band.

yeah, i forgot they were playing, became confused, and ran to turn vh1 classic off. who's running the p.r. department over there?
 
It's better or just as good as any other pitch correction software out there. Better than Autotune...better than Melodyne IMHO. Frankly, I like it. I'll be using it. They used it to extremes but for subtle changes, V-Vocal is going to be great. Besides, I can't wait to try it out for some crazy effects!
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
It's better or just as good as any other pitch correction software out there. Better than Autotune...better than Melodyne
What are you basing that opinion on?
 
dachay2tnr said:
What are you basing that opinion on?

The interface and ease of use as demonstrated by the video on the Cakewalk website.

Don't get defensive. :D After all, it's my opinion based on what I've seen.

And my opinion should always be taken with a grain of salt. ;)
 
I'm not getting defensive. But since no one has actually used this product yet (I understand Sonar 5 copies are starting to arrive this week), I thought the statement was a bit presumptious - unless you had some actual experience with it through beta testing or some other means.
 
Well, there are some that already have their copies of S5, actually. I'm not one of them, however.

For me, I hold a lot of stock in ease of use and the design of the interface. Working well is of course right up there. But if it's not easy to use, I don't want to use it.

But I understand your point.
 
I'm thinking this is just a software version of a hardware unit that Roland has had out for sometime now.The name of the unit eludes me at the moment.

Given the Pitfalls of software due to piracy and hardware conflicts it's probably advantageous for Roland to let hardware units to run their course and then squeeze a few more dollars out of the technology by releasing it as a plug in.
 
"VariOS" is the box you are thinking about, "VariPhrase" is the umbrella technology that is being licensed/used in S5.

Ciao,

Q.
 
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