Rode NT1 or Studio Projects C1

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I'm looking for a well-rounded large condenser for a home studio setting, used mostly for micing amps and for vocals. Does anyone have a preference between these two?

What about the Audio Technica in the same price range?

Thanks.
 
C1, not even a contest here.
I believe the AT-4033 that you are asking about is a medium diameter condenser, but Ive heard good things about it.
 
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If we were talking AT 4033, I would agree. But in the $199 range, it's an AT 3035. That's not really the same language IMO.
 
I have only used the NT1, so I would definitely say the C1! :D
 
If it's just between the NT1 and the C1, for most voices the C1
will be better. (have owned and extensively used both mikes)

As far as the AT4033, that doesn't work on as many different
voices as the C1. (didn't work for me either)
In fact , an SM57 sounds better than the 4033 on my voice!

Chris
 
i've used the rode nt1 and the studio projects c1 a lot. i have not used the rode nt1a, which just came out.

the c1 is a better mic on more sources.

i've heard some nice tracks recorded with an audio technica at3035 and i've tried one out in the store. i was very impressed with the at3035.

but, if it were me spending my money, then i'd probably go:

1. studio projects c1 (if i were going to be doing more male voices);
2. audio technica at3035 (if i were going to be doing more female voices);
3. rode nt1 but i'd personally pass this one on by.

i can't say anything about the new rode nt1a as i've not tried it.

also, check out the often recommended mxl v67. i've never used one but harvey gerst loves them and i respect his judgment as do a lot of other people.

steve
www.piemusic.com
 
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Actually I'd say that even the SP B1 is a better mic than the NT1. The B1 is pretty good for micing amps. I wouldn't use it on acoustic guitar, though.
 
of those two, i would agree the C1 is the better mic. the rode NT1000 is better still for a bit more money. but in reality, where i imagine at least a few of you live, since vocals are probably the most critical of the tracks you lay down for a tune, it is worth your money to invest a little more and buy a really useable vocal mic such as the rode NTK or SP T3. i sold my pair of neumann tlm103s after using the NTKs for the first time. the bee gees just used the NTKs for their main vocal mics on their new CD (and those dudes have stacks of vintage U47s, C12s etc to chjoose from). remember, when you buy a nice tube mic like the NTK, you DONT HAVE TO USE A CRAPPY PSUEDO-"TUBE" PREAMP.
 
Rossi said:
Actually I'd say that even the SP B1 is a better mic than the NT1. The B1 is pretty good for micing amps. I wouldn't use it on acoustic guitar, though.
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I agree with you, but the B3 is even better. Great for female and male vocals, Killer for acoustic guitars. At $159.00...what more do you need? Ok, there is always more, but the B Series is starting to get some pretty impressive responses from end users and reviewers.
 
Alan, is the B3 superior to the B1 for acoustic guitar then
mainly because of the option of the omni mode?

In condensers, I generally prefer omni over cardiod on my vocals,
especially on ballads where not as much "punch" is needed.
(assuming you have a good room to record in to begin with)

Chris
 
chessparov said:
Alan, is the B3 superior to the B1 for acoustic guitar then
mainly because of the option of the omni mode?

Chris
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CHris,

Certainly Omni helps, but so does the figure of eight pattern. As you know, especially after some time, the front and rear capsule tend to have a different sound. This is a result of the front capsule getting more use, so more spit and all the other crap it takes from users. This means there are two sound sources that have different tones, so when using a big dreadnaught with a big low end, you can get two different sounds between the front and rear capsule that could knock out or roll off some of that low end when needed.

Either way, the B3 has a bit more presence in the top end that resembles an open airy type quality over the B1. It just works better for acoustics, as does the C3 over the C1. Proximity is a big issue with Omni as low end rolls off quite a bit from distance, but it is a very useful pattern for acoustics.

Anyway, that is why I like it more...
 
alanhyatt said:
Either way, the B3 has a bit more presence in the top end that resembles an open airy type quality over the B1. It just works better for acoustics, as does the C3 over the C1. Proximity is a big issue with Omni as low end rolls off quite a bit from distance, but it is a very useful pattern for acoustics.

Anyway, that is why I like it more...
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Alan: Given Jim Soloway's vocal sample of the B3 he posted, I've got to give it up to you. When I heard Jim's song, I thought, "Listen to the open sound on top." Very nice.

Steve
www.mojopie.com
 
C1 is a very useful vocal mic by all accounts, I use C3 and NTK primarily, and I do not consider NTK a step up from C3, just different. The cool thing is that what does not work on one, will often work on the other. My limited experiences with NT-1 is that it makes a pretty good fishing sinker. A current strong consideration would be Marshall V67 ($89 at Sam Ash) and SP B-3.-Richie
 
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