Rigid Fiberglass containment options

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Well I've got plenty of roxul rockboard... Now I just need to cover them with something and mount them.
I'd hate to spend 150 on crappy fabric and some strips of wood to make the panels like most everyone else does cause that 150$ could be used to purchase more treatment...


Are there any alternatives of containing the fiberglass fibers in the rockwool other than buying burlap or fabric?
 
Theres a certain spray that will keep the fibers in place pretty well. I forget the name though =/ I think it was like starch spray or something??
 
Are ya sure you have to spend $150?? I've got about 16 panels and I might have spent $30, maybe $40. Go to Walmart and look in their clearance bins. Find the cheapest you can. Usually, that's the stuff you want because it's so thin sound will travel through it easily. No reflections.

I didn't use wood frames, either. Just wrapped them in fabric and figured out how to hang them on the wall.
 
Kingofpain678 said:
Well I've got plenty of roxul rockboard... Now I just need to cover them with something and mount them.
I'd hate to spend 150 on crappy fabric and some strips of wood to make the panels like most everyone else does cause that 150$ could be used to purchase more treatment...


Are there any alternatives of containing the fiberglass fibers in the rockwool other than buying burlap or fabric?
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OK, first of all - there are NO fiberglass fibers in rockwool because rockwool is not made from fiberglass.

Rockwool is manufactured using Basalt rock and Chalk.

Fiberglass is (on the other hand) made from spun glass fibers.

The suggestion to use cheap fabric from any source is OK - however make sure to treat the fabric to make it flame resistant.

There are a variety of options available for this.

Rod
 
flame resistant?

This is the 3rd time I have seen this issue pop up. I have never heard of this problem. What are people doing near these things?

Don't get me wrong. It makes a lot of sense to me. I just wonder what the hell is going on in these studios.
 
3 words: Cheap cotton tablecloths.

The more open the weave (i.e. cheaper) the better.
 
meowadishi said:
flame resistant?

This is the 3rd time I have seen this issue pop up. I have never heard of this problem. What are people doing near these things?

Don't get me wrong. It makes a lot of sense to me. I just wonder what the hell is going on in these studios.
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Nothing even has to be going on in these studios.......

Last week I was standing in my kitchen and heard a crackling sound behind me........ I turned around to see sparks flying from a ceiling fan/light assembly hanging over my dining room table - of course I immediately turned off the light switch.

Imagine my surprise when (after taking the fixture apart) I found that there was a manufacturing defect in the fixture. When it was assembled they pinched one of the wires that fed the lights.

It took 4 years for this to finally get to the point where the resistance was great enough that it finally melted the insulation and shorted out against the body of the fixture - but it did happen.

If I had been out of the room when that happened there could very easily have been a fire.

Now - picture these sparks hitting a flammable cloth surface...........

There can be a lot of potential sources for fires to begin (it isn't always anything as simple as a careless smoker).

The whole idea with room finishes and treatments is to not add fuels that are easily ignitable.

Yes wood finishes will burn - but they will never be ignited with sparks from an electrical short...... there has to be a sustained flame in order to get them to burn.

Treated fabrics will not sustain flame on their own (they will burn if there is already an active flame)

Hold a match to a treated fabric and it will burn - get it going pretty good and then remove the flame and it will stop burning........ this is the whole idea.

These rooms are often) filled with a ton of electronic gear - plenty of sources for fires sitting there....

So even if they do nothing foolish at all - crap happens.

Rod
 
TimOBrien said:
3 words: Cheap cotton tablecloths.

The more open the weave (i.e. cheaper) the better.
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If you can breathe easily through a fabric it is fine for early reflections........... if it is a low frequency treatment and you are not concerned with high frequency absorption then any fabric will do fine.
 
So even if they do nothing foolish at all - crap happens.
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You betcha they do. I replaced a water heater last year, which is in the laundry room BELOW my studio. The installer hooked it up at the j box while the wires were still LIVE. Easy enough if you know what your doing. Unfortunately, when he did, he did NOT twist the wires together..instead, he used the wire nuts to simply make straight wires connect. What you can't see though, is when the wires touched the metal on the inside of the cap, it essentially welded the wires to the metal part...but didn't make the wires touch. The metal part was essencially a conductor, and as such, quickly heated up to the point it melted the plastic cover, which I happen to smell burning. Thank god. When I found it, the metal part of the wire nut was RED HOT!! Thank god the cover on the j-box was still open and I was home.

BTW, ever seen nylon melt. Imagine a CLOUD treatment covered with nylon..hahahahaha...unbelievable. Dripping while ignited. All over everything.

Well, all I can say is it only takes ONCE! For ANY reason. And btw, hindsight is 20/20, but it won't bring back your studio, home, or a loved one. Or yourself should that be the case. People die in fires daily. Yea, it may not be because of non fire treated fabrics, but then again...people die in bed from igniting blankets/mattress while smoking in bed. I know. I almost died from smoke inhalation myself after a night of partying on New Years.. DUMB DUMB DUMB!!!:rolleyes: Had a hard time breathing for a week. Needless to say...I quit smoking after that one.
 
Chili said:
Are ya sure you have to spend $150?? I've got about 16 panels and I might have spent $30, maybe $40. Go to Walmart and look in their clearance bins. Find the cheapest you can. Usually, that's the stuff you want because it's so thin sound will travel through it easily. No reflections.

I didn't use wood frames, either. Just wrapped them in fabric and figured out how to hang them on the wall.
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there's a 144 Sq. ft. to cover, and thats just the face of the boards, I need to wrap the fabric AROUND the boards. One yard of fabric is 1.89$ but we'll round up to 2$ for now...

1 yd. = 3ft.

144 sq. ft. divided by 3 = 48

That means I need 48 yards of fabric to cover ONLY the face of the boards. 48 yards at 2$ a yard is 96$

any way I look at it, it's gonna cost about 100$ JUST to cover the f*cking boards. Now, lets talk about frames. 4-5$ for a 1"x2" board thats 8 ft. long. I need to build 18 frames.

... I'm not even going to begin to do the math on that part because tbh I don't really care to hear what it's gonna cost me.
 
I think you only need 24 yrds. The panels are 4 ft long, you have 18 panels

4*18= 72ft of face to cover

The fabric is sold by the yard and it's either 46" or 60" wide. Either is more than enough to cover the 2ft width of the panel. It will cover the sides and most of the back.

So, 72 ft divided by 3 is 24 yrds.

If you get the 60" wide fabric you can spread the width across the 4ft length of the panel and cover 18 2ft panels. That would be 12 yrds of fabric. But with that option, you probably wouldn't cover much of the back of the panel.

And like I said before, go to Walmart and check out their clearance bin. I bought mine for $1/yd. That's linear yard, they were 46" wide.

Have fun,
 
Chili said:
I think you only need 24 yrds. The panels are 4 ft long, you have 18 panels

4*18= 72ft of face to cover

The fabric is sold by the yard and it's either 46" or 60" wide. Either is more than enough to cover the 2ft width of the panel. It will cover the sides and most of the back.

So, 72 ft divided by 3 is 24 yrds.

If you get the 60" wide fabric you can spread the width across the 4ft length of the panel and cover 18 2ft panels. That would be 12 yrds of fabric. But with that option, you probably wouldn't cover much of the back of the panel.

And like I said before, go to Walmart and check out their clearance bin. I bought mine for $1/yd. That's linear yard, they were 46" wide.

Have fun,
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Lol, you're right. I'm retarded

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Chili said:
Whew, and here I was thinking you were just making bad assumptions.... :laughings: :laughings:

Sorry, couldn't resist. I think it's an easy mistake to make.

peace,
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One last thing... Since I'm just as cheap as I am retarded and you had mentioned earlier that you didn't use frames and that you just covered the boards and found a way to hang them, how exactly did you hang the boards?
 
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