Removing silence at end of a recording? (Sonar)

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I recently started recording with Sonar 2.2.

I cut or deleted (shortened) approximately one minute off the end of a song.

Wen I monitor the song, it plays through as far as the song was before I shortened it, and doesn't stop at what is now the end of the recording.

What's worse, when I export/convert it to MP3, it has that minute of silence on the MP3.

How do you stop this from happening? I know there must be a way, but I haven't been able to figure it out...

Can anyone help?
 
Maybe select everything from the new ending all the way to the old ending, delete, and check the box that says 'delete hole', or something like that. That should do it, I would think.

ed
 
I'm away from my computer right now, but unfortunately I'm pretty sure I tried that.

Since there is nothing but silence for the last minute, I don't think I even get the option to delete anything. In other words, there is nothing there that I can select or right-click/delete...
 
Make sure you "Apply Trimming" every clip after you cut / delete clips before mix 'em. If you didn't do that, the deleted / cut parts are still "hidden" and "unsounded" while playback. Cakewalk will assume you still have the whole length of the clip, but will stop sound it in your cut / delete position. Usually, you can tell if the clip is un "trimmed" by tinny diagonal corner at down right of the clip.

Right click the clip --> Apply trimming

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Jaymz





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Go up on the time ruler bar at the top of your track window. The one where it tells you what measure you're at. Suppose the song ends at measure 92, but you want it to end at 86. Left-click on the time bar and drag it out to 92. You should see everything get dark from 86 to 92. Now you should be able to delete it. Make sure you don't have any tracks selected when you do this, or you'll just delete the info from that track. It's easier to do it than to explain it, and I'm wondering if I'm making sense!? :D

ed
 
I hadn't tried that! And obviously just learned about "trimming".

Thanks, guys. I'll give it a shot when I get home tonight.
 
Guess what. I tried, but still no dice... just can't get rid of that minute of deafening silence at the end!

Anybody else have any ideas?

I guess I could start a new session, copy all clips from my problem session, and then paste them into my new session (without the silence)?
 
did you use any envelopes? if so they will extend beyond the end of the song. move the last track envelope node for all tracks in so that the dotted line ends at the end of the song. that one got me once.

Also if you dragged the tracks shorter that info is still there, drag them back out then split and delete them as jaymz said earlier

peace
Bill
 
also, You can have a slice of information which is too thin to show up when the image is compressed, hanging out there all by itself. The way to find that is to go to the area where the song is ending and expand the view horizontally. If still no go. add volume envelopes to all the tracks , the tracks where the envelope remains a solid line beyond the visible end of the song is the one with info out there!
Peace
Bill
 
No envelopes I believe, but I may have shortened one of the clips (tracks) by dragging it instead of splitting/deleting it, so I'll look into that tonight when I'm back in front of my trusted workstation.

Thanks, Bill !
 
Remember to "apply triming" to any clips that have been slip edited, and might continue past the end of the song. I have had a slip edited track way in the beginning of my song that had "invisible" data in it that made Sonar think the song went on way longer than I did!...
 
There's another way to address the specific problem of exporting only the desired section of tracks that I don't think has been mentioned. Highligh only the part of the tracks you want to use.
The way I was shown (thank's to the crack ACKUS team here:D) that works slick for me is to place a Marker at each end that define the start and stop points. Go to the start marker, hit F9, then to the end marker, hit F10. The time line is set. Then add in the track(s) and export.
No more dead air.:D
Wayne
 
Learn something every day! Thanks for sticking with me, guys.

There are no slip-edited clips, but I think I might know what the problem is, I just don't know the solution: I archived several tracks that were longer than the final piece. Could that be it?

How do you un-archive tracks? I checked through the manual, but there is no clear explanation...
 
Its not an archived track. It can only be tracks which are selected. Method 2. To track down the culprit track. select audio for exporting by using the process of elimination. select ONLY half the tracks and export audio... see how long the song is. if its the correct length select the other half of the tracks ONLY. if its long then you know its one of those tracks. keep doing that until you isolate the track /s which makes it long. As I said earlier there can be a piece of info that is so short It does not show up hanging out there where the ausio conversion stops. That is unless you expand the track, then you see this slice of info which must be deleted. Ive had that happen where the info was so small I almost could not select it to delete it!!!!

Peace
Bill
 
<<... I think I might know what the problem is, I just don't know the solution: I archived several tracks that were longer than the final piece. Could that be it?...>>

No.

<<How do you un-archive tracks? I checked through the manual, but there is no clear explanation... >>

Click on the A.

So...does that mean you can't highlight-any-bit-of-the-song-in-the-time-bar-and-export-just-that-part-regardless-of-how-long-the-track-is-and-even-if-you-didn't-trim-them???
:confused:
Wayne
 
This might be lame, but do you have any tracks that are hidden in the track view? Do a show all tracks to check and see. It happened to me once, I found I had hidden a track early on in the tracking process... During editing there was a clip hanging out past the end of my song.



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