Reducing bleed on drum overhead mics

  • Thread starter Thread starter Chill
  • Start date Start date
C

Chill

New member
Micing drums in a smallish space, with one in the kick and two overheads, all dynamics. One guitar amp is up on a ledge about even with the cymbals aimed a little bit away from the drums. The guitar amp is picked up quite well by the overhead mics (we'll tell the band it's "ambience" and not "bleed" :D). To reduce the bleed, would moving the amp away from the mics help? How about aiming it more perpendicular to the mics? Any other tips for reducing the bleed (aside from putting the drums and amp in separate rooms)?
 
You could try some sort of blankket hung from the ceiling separating the amp from the drum-area. Or maybe some sort of "wall" with some Auralex on both sides. I don't think it'll *eliminate* the amp-bleed.
Basically, if your overheads are condensor -- which most are -- they're much more sensitive than dynamic, and it's hard to keep a guitar-amp out of the mic if it's in the same room.
Now, a hypercardiod pattern on the mic might not pick up a lot of the drums themselves. I don't think I've seen any hypercardiod overhead mics, but, maybe I just missed 'em. ;)

Hope you could understand that -- I was thinking while typing, so it may have come out a little distorted. :p
-Justin
 
first, i would make sure to aim the amp away from the drum kit (face it the same way the drummer's facing).

then i'd try to put up some sort of baffling, gobo, etc., inbetween the amp and the kit, just to try to kill some of the bleed.

unfortunately, to get an amp to a level where the guitarist can hear it over a drumkit, you're GOING to have bleed in your drum mics. and you're going to have drum bleed in the guitar mics.

in all, though, you CAN work with it in the mix. in a decent sounding room, the "ambience" as you called it can actually flavor the sound in a rather nice way.


cheers,
wade
 
Drummer4Life05 said:
I don't think I've seen any hypercardiod overhead mics, but, maybe I just missed 'em. ;)
Click to expand...

hi

the oktava mk012 include three different capsules (unless you want it with only one): cardioid, omni and HYPERCARDIOID

http://sound-room.com/customer/product.php?productid=102&cat=2&page=1

i never tried them though, i only have the cardioid capsule.

hey chill, you can DI the guitar and do an overdub later... or try the blanket thing it may work better than you think


*memo*
 
Thanks memo.
I forgot about interchangable capusles.
 
its pretty hard to eliminate bleed, sometimes your best bet is to work with it. Perhaps try omni mics for that less mufled bleed. this may give you something more useable.. just an idea any how.
 
beta 87a is a supercordiod condenser
wnoder how it sounds
 
If you dont want guitar on the drum track, hook up headphones too the guitar amp and run the headphones to the drummer. :D no guitar sound.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top