recording with acoustic drum loops

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anyone record with acoustic drum loops?
I had picked up some Beta Monkey loops and Mick Fleetwoods total drumming and I like using them cause I have more control over my songs ,it is also faster than having the band come over ,teach them my song, set up drums for recording and rarely do I get a finished product anywhere near what I hear in my head. So I find it much easier to use acoustic drum loops with a scratch rhythm track , add bass ,then redo the guitar , then I have a choice of keeping the track or I can give it to the band and they can learn it. Which works out well cause they hear the song as I intended.
Has anyone else used acoustic drum loops and released songs with them? I would like to hear some.
I have also learned a few tricks since I started using them,such as to how to keep a ride cymbal ringing when you insert a drum roll so u don't get the abrupt digital silences and cut off.
I am really digging using them though it's a pain searching for the right grooves and fills sometimes but it saves eons of time in the mixing stage.
 
My apologies, Not a single reply to my original thread so I assumed people didn't see it for some reason,hence the second posting . Maybe no one is interested. Perhaps the ,"powers that be " can remove one, for alas, I cannot or don't know how.
 
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Maybe no one is interested.
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That may be the case, but most people probably don't come on every day and most of them are going to be on a different time zone.
Plenty of threads go unanswered for longer than a day so sit tight, get involved, and don't panic. ;)

If I had to guess I'd say drum loop packs might not be common around here. Most people seem to record live drums or use sample based software like Addictive Drums or Superior Drummer.

Welcome to HR. :)
 
I'm interested but still learning. I just got a Zoom R24 and it comes with a bunch of Big Fish loops. I need to learn the sequencer first. I'm with you on the pain for searching.

In my case the loops come in 10bpm increments, and I'm wanting to try them now on a piece I recorded at 128bpm with the internal drum machine sounds. It shouldn't be a problem to resample once I find the patterns I want but it makes searching nore difficult
 
After playing a bit with the Big Fish loops provided by Zoom.. it kinda sucks if you're not writing to the patterns and are looking for patterns to fit your song instead. I think it would be worlds more usable if the loops weren't a stereo track of everything with a ton of room mic thrown in. I wasn't excited about loops in the first place but I figured I should give it a shot. Then I got to thinking - hey maybe I can combine some loops with programmed parts to give my programmed parts some authenticity.

I pretty much came to a realization that loop based recording is nothing more than stitching cliche's together. Think about it, in order to sell loops, you have to have the stuff everyone is looking for. Even a few thousand loops is really only going to scratch the surface of bread and butter cliches. If I could even sitch "kick loops" and "snare loops" together I think it would go a long way to both finding usable stuff that fits and not being so trite.
 
my modus operandi for acoustic drum loops

i have an old version of acid 6 which I use for constructing the drum tracks, I use mainly Beta Monkey drum loops and Mick Fleetwood's Total Drumming loops ( which has a great bohnamesque feel).
I find the main groove I want to use , then lay a scratch rythym guitar trak
,then i"ll cut the main groove and insert the drumrolls and cymbal hits ect. I listen and adjust it til its to my liking.I then remove the rythym guitar brn it to a cd, install it on my yamaha AW16g.record the bass track making adjustments of my basslines so they really sit in the pocket.
when I record the guitar its like having a really tight band behind me.after recording all the trax and vox ,I mix it , move it to my computer for mastering with Reaper, .Its kinda weird ,I know they are drum loops and I think everyone will know, but when i play trax for friends they all want to know who's playing drums
 
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