recording with a powered mixer and laptop

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Hello all,
This is my first post.
I have never done any home recording but am looking forward to starting soon.
I am thinking of using a Studiomaster powered mixer and a 2 yr old Compaq laptop.

Inputs directly connected will be:
1 Vocal mic
2 Vocal mic
3 Electric guitar
4 Electro/acoustic guitar
5 Yamaha Ry10 drum m/c with bass

I have no pc software at the moment.
Can anyone please advise me what type I should get.

Can anyone please advise/comment on this set up.

Is it too basic?
How can I improve this set up?
Thanks
 
Well I'm no expert but I was in the same boat as you were a few months ago. Just in the learning stages. This might seem like obvious advice but the most important thing is to do the proper research on each device before you buy it. Took me a long time to decide on my set up, and like many many other people... I wasted a little bit of money on items that I had to eventualy replace for expansion or quality reasons.

Here are things I had to think about...

Do you need a full on mixer? or just a Digital Audio interface to record on to your computer?
It seemed to me... (and I could be wrong as I am still a newbie to recording) that for Computer based recording... the mixer was Redundant. Today's recording Software such as CuBase (which I use) have their own Equalizers and Effects plug-ins. So I didn't feel I needed an extra set of effects and equalizers on a mixer.

We wanted to be able to have multiple tracks all recording at once in order to get my friends drums on individual tracks and be able to adjust levels, EQ's and effects after the fact. Most mixers only have the two outputs for a stereo signal which means you have to pre-mix the levels of each drum and instrument. (For me it was like... then why do I have this awesome recording software with all the bells and whistles when I have to spend all this money duplicating those bells and whistles on a mixer!)

For me, the solution was a Digital Audio interface that could take multiple channels and put them all onto the computer at once. The interface I bought has no effects processing or EQ's - just a bunch of Pre-Amps and hooks up to my PC via FIrewire. So it enables me to record 8 simulatnious and individual tracks into the comptuer all at once and I didn't have to pay extra on duplicate effects processing.


At first I was like.. why doesn't everyone just do Computer based recording with an interface instead of mixers??!!?! and I think it is because of a couple of factors.... For example, I can see the computer based mixing being a real pain for Live aplications. PC based mixing can still be used for Live no problem except you need to deal with things like Monitor Latency if your computer is not fast enough.

and lets face it... having the Knobs and buttons all laid out on a mxing board is wayyyy easier to use live then a silly Mouse and a scroll bar!

So make sure you know what you want to do with it and how many tracks you want to be able to record simultaniously before you buy anything.. or you'll end up like me... with an old mixer collecting dust on the shelf while my PC does all the work... lol
 
For example, I can see the computer based mixing being a real pain for Live aplications. PC based mixing can still be used for Live no problem except you need to deal with things like Monitor Latency if your computer is not fast enough.

Actually, it's easy - you don't MIX when you are recording - you just record, each channel of your live feed into a separate input channel on the PC. For monitoring or performance sound, you still use a full-on PA mixing board for your sound output.
 
For monitoring or performance sound, you still use a full-on PA mixing board for your sound output.


Except if you don't have a mixer! hehe. We use a FireWire interface for our recording - and technically it can be used for Live sound as well. The software that comes with it has a virtual Mixing board you can use on the computer and TRS Stereo Outs that you can route to a PA. It is that virtual Mixing board I was refering to when I said it might be a pain to use live... as I can't get all 16 tracks to fit on the computer screen without having to scroll... doh!

plus as soon as you start routing the signal through the effects plug-ins and EQ's on the PC you start to chew up a lot of processing power and end up getting a few microseconds delay on your signal out of the PC

both those issues can be addressed of course... :) But it just shows the types of things you really need to consider when purchaseing recording equipment... specially computer based recording equipment.
 
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