Recording for the first time tommarow and want to make sure my plan will work.

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So im pretty sure everything im doing is mostly standard but i want to make sure as i will be recording at their house and want to make sure everything goes right.
I have a computer and M-audio 192 which i will bring over there. I will plug the line outs from their old Tascam m30(i might get paid with it :D ) into my 192's line in with TS cable( i should have gotten TRS for balanced audio). I will be using Edison Recorder in FL Studio(I know it well) to record the signal. I have 2 GLS ES57's and one ES58(Shure copies) they will be plugged into the Tascam M30 and i will balance the mics against eachother on the mixer(it is analog). Once i have a setup that sounds nice i will record it on to my computer one instrument at a time(will obviously adjust the mics according to that instrument). They don't play to clicks but they seems to have all their songs written in a basic form on their computer(not sure which program) so i will have them tracking(that is what it is called i think?) to that.
Im certain i have everything right here but i want to ensure that mixing on the analog Tascam and recording its output will work well. Of course i will do the mixing of the instruments together at a later time, just making sure the kick mic doesn't overpower the snare or OH or something like that.
So basiclly:
Instument -> Mics -> Tascam M30 -> M-Audio 192 -> FL
I will be recording a hardcore band, if that means a lot. The room is a garage with no treatment but it will only be a demo CD so quality isn't of the utmost importance. I will be sure to upload it to you guys later, so you guys can make sure i didn't totally screw up somewhere.
Thanks.
 
Not being a dick. But, you're going to have to mix it off the little tascam board... When you import it into fl studio, it's going to be a stereo track, that means there's not alot you can do to it. It's probably going to sound really bad!!!
 
What will make it sound bad, it being stereo? Stereo don't mix together well? Please explain what you are trying to say. What wont i be able to do to it? Will not panning anything and just putting it only in the left side and making it mono help? Making it mono after the fact? They have another mixer board with only 2 mic in's, should i try using that through SPDIF for the OH's? I forgot to metion that they have 3 mics that i could use, don't know the quality of 2 of them but the 3rd is a Shure mic that should sound good.
Any solutions?
 
I think i understand what you are trying to say now, i wont be able to pan things how i want when all my files are already stereo. Maybe having vocal, guitar's, and bass's mono, and the drums stereo will let me pick where i want the former to be and i will have to just get the stereo sound that i want from the drums the best i can from the tascam.
 
The recording will pick up stuff that you don't want on the mixed recording. But you can't mix a stereo recording. What you get can't be changed.
 
Washburn100 said:
The recording will pick up stuff that you don't want on the mixed recording. But you can't mix a stereo recording. What you get can't be changed.
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But do you think i solve most of my problems by recording guitars and such in mono, but leaving drums stereo and leaving them like that. And what stuff wouldn't i be able to do with a stereo drum recording? Just pan no? Im not planning on substituting any instruments or such. What won't i want?
 
If you record multiple tracks all separate, you can eq/pan/volume adjust each track independent of the rest.

If you record a stereo mix of several tracks, you cant.


For example: A CD is a stereo mix. You can't turn the vocals up on a CD.
 
Steenamaroo said:
If you record multiple tracks all separate, you can eq/pan/volume adjust each track independent of the rest.

If you record a stereo mix of several tracks, you cant.


For example: A CD is a stereo mix. You can't turn the vocals up on a CD.
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Okay maybe i was ambiguous with my typing, but i will record each separately. Im not recording a stereo mix of several tracks, im micing the instrument and all the mics end up at the mixer to which i make sure i they are all leveled to the way i want them to be, then i press record. With my sound drivers i can have them record two separate mono tracks instead of a stereo track. Like ive said, i understand that my drums recording won't have better soundstage than i get in the tascam, but with all the rest of the instruments i will not pan any of the mics, and ill probably only plug the left output in and have my soundcard record it as mono.
Now im done with the whole stereo thing, i have my solution. Any other problems with my approach?
 
Oh, ok, so for drums you're are mixing them live and recording a dual mono (or stereo) sum, but for the other instruments you're tracking them one at a time and mixing them later?
 
If you're recording one instrument at a time, what are you using to enable the musicians to hear what was previously recorded?
 
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Well here is the drum recording. Time stopped us from doing much else but next Saturday we planned things out and have 7 hours so we should at least have two songs recorded. I didn't do much to the recording other than EQ and haven't even edited it. Pretty much a raw recording. Here is a pic of how i mic'd it.
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It was a hot California day in a stuffy garage with kilawatts of equipment running and a full sweaty band that just got finished practicing and the neccasary 5 random people who showed up that we have no clue what they are there for. The fan and water bottles were necessary.
 
moresound said:
Either lose the fan or put a mic on it!
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It was off while recording but im pretty sure that that was a joke i missed. How does the recording sound?
Also how would i get more out of the cymbals? EQ only works to a point.
 
Have the drummer play, then listen through headphones as you move the mics around. Slight changes in mic position can make a huge difference in the sound.
 
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