recording electric guitar

[jimi]

weather with or without distortion if i like the sound coming out of the amp do i plug output of amp in recorder or guitar in recorder right away ? or a mic infront of amp and in recorder

another question if i have a recorder (digital or analog why do i need a power mixer ???? like a 10 channel 200 watt or whatever mixer ? what am i gonna use it for in the recording process


another question MIC (VOCALS) plug mic into the recoder right away ? or in reverb unit then recorder?

i guess all 3 questions are related
thanks i appreciate it
hope to hear from you soon
bye

 

[Jagular]

Some very simple answers. I’m sure others can expound more:

weather with or without distortion if i like the sound coming out of the amp do i plug output of amp in recorder or guitar in recorder right away ? or a mic infront of amp and in recorder

There aren’t many amps that give you a very good sound from the direct out on the amp. Usually you would want to mic the cabinet. SM57’s are pretty good for this. Some people use one in front of the cone. Others set up two (one in front of the cone and one back a ways to capture room sound). There are no “right” ways to do this but it will be fun for you to experiment. I’m no expert on the subject so I’ll stop there.

another question if i have a recorder (digital or analog why do i need a power mixer ???? like a 10 channel 200 watt or whatever mixer ? what am i gonna use it for in the recording process

The 200 watt probably refers to the ouput (to speakers) of the powered mixer. The purpose of the mixer can be for recording multiple sources at one time or for mixing down your tracks. Depends on how you have things set up. The mixer probably has preamps on it which you can plug in your mic(s) before it goes to the recorder.

another question MIC (VOCALS) plug mic into the recoder right away ? or in reverb unit then recorder?

i guess all 3 questions are related
thanks i appreciate it
hope to hear from you soon
bye

You will need some sort of preamp before the recorder. Your mixer may serve that purpose, although they may not be the best preamps, it would get you started. You can probably use your mixer to patch in effects like reverb, eq, compression. Again I am not an expert on this as I use effect plug ins on my computer, so I’m sure someone will step in. I’m thinking you will need to describe your set up a little better. Hopefully this will just get the discussion rolling here for you

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[James Argo]

Yo Jimi of Egypt...

do i plug output of amp in recorder or guitar in recorder right away ? or a mic infront of amp and in recorder

Each way has it's own benefit. Most of the case, you'll need to hear which of those way delivers the best for the character you looked for, and which gives you more headroom. Consider the amp's character, the room ambience, the mic you use, etc...etc... We can't tell one is better than another way...

another question if i have a recorder (digital or analog why do i need a power mixer ???? like a 10 channel 200 watt or whatever mixer ? what am i gonna use it for in the recording process

You only need mixer to mix (and route) your audio for whatever you do. Some decent mixer also has a built in good preamps for mic for you to use. You don't need Powered mixer to record your music.

another question MIC (VOCALS) plug mic into the recoder right away ? or in reverb unit then recorder?

Mic goes to preamp (or to mixer with built in preamp). Then recorder. You can add effect in mixing session latter. Or if you wan't straight recording (all at once) route the aux send of your mixer to the reverb unit, and route the output to aux return... You can controll how much signal to be balanced (dry and wet) using aux send knob on your mic's channel...

James

 

[sjjohnston]

weather with or without distortion if i like the sound coming out of the amp do i plug output of amp in recorder or guitar in recorder right away ? or a mic infront of amp and in recorder

Mic in front of the amp is the way most good recordings are done. Do not plug the output that's supposed to go to the speaker into the recorder! It's amplified to drive a speaker, and may kill the electronics in your recorder's inputs. Some guitar amps have a line-level out (sometimes called pre-amp out) that you can plug into a recorder. Most of them sound pretty lousy. Something like a Pod or J-Station is a better solution if that's what you want to do.

another question if i have a recorder (digital or analog why do i need a power mixer ???? like a 10 channel 200 watt or whatever mixer ? what am i gonna use it for in the recording process

You don't. A powered mixer is intended for use as a PA system (or part of a PA system) for live shows. It is possible to use a powered mixer for recording, if that's all you have, but that's not what it's for. Again, do not connect an output that's supposed to go to speakers to your recorder

another question MIC (VOCALS) plug mic into the recoder right away ? or in reverb unit then recorder?

The mic would ordinarily need to go into a mic preamp before it goes to anything else. Some recorders have mic preamps built into them. Reverb units ordinarily don't. So plugging a mic into a reverb unit would ordinarily be a bad idea.

More generally, recording with effects like reverb ("wet") is not usually the best way to do things. You're better off applying reverb at mixdown. You may want to create a monitor mix that has reverb, but we're rapidly getting into stuff that's probably more complicated than you want to fool with at this point.

i guess all 3 questions are related
thanks i appreciate it
hope to hear from you soon
bye [/B][/QUOTE]

 

[jimi]

cool !! as much as i understand all of what u guys said and its very helpfull .... it is very hard to actually apply it .. I DONT HAVE ANY EFFECTS OR REVERB UNITS so i dont think i can go on without first buying one ... right ? and a pre amp and a compressor and all that good stuff
i guess it takes alot to get a simple sound ...thats why do u think its better if i get a digital 4 track ? with all that kabooom inside it already ?
thanks

 

[jimi]

P.S : im looking for kind of like a radiohead lenny kravitz sheryl crow kinda sound ya know
yea ! in a million years !! lol
thanks
im waiting for ur repliesgrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[seismetr0n]

are you just recording into an analog 4-track now? tascam etc...?

and you dont need any effects to record. most newbies over-use effects on their tracks and muddy it all up.

i spent years and years recording on a tascam 4-track with no efx, and I got many quality recordings out of it.

i assume you have a cpu if you're on this bbs, why not try to convert it into a recorder, at least, before buying a digital multitrack. you can get lots of free/cheap software and plugins out there. you can probably get by with an older 400mhz processor. and if its just you recording, you shouldn't need more then 2-4 inputs at a time (depending on if you'll record live drums too).

also if you're amp has efx (reverb at least) on it you can always use it as a processor for your vocals.

gl

 

[seismetr0n]

also, many good artists have had they're start with 4-track demos.

(beck, pj harvey... etc.)