Recording drums with Yamaha Audigram6?

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I've recorded drums with my friend's equipment. We'd run a bunch of mics to this big mixer/board where I could EQ and level out the drums. Then the 'mono out' would go into the 'mono in' on a Mbox Mini. All the mics would be recorded as a single track. I'm looking into getting something that allows me to simultaneously record separate tracks from separate mics.

My questions: If I have Cubase 4, can I just use the Audiogram 6, and some mics to record, or do I need anything else? I want to record with three mics (bass drum, snare, room mic). Is this possible with the Audiogram 6? Feel free to suggest any other products that suit my needs... and budget. Something inexpensive that works.
 
Define inexpensive.
For some people that means $50 is too much.
To others it means "Anything under $10,000 is great"
 
I just want to be able to simultaneously record 3 or 4 separate tracks from separate mics. I think my budget is about $250... I'm a college student. I've got mics, cables, and the full version of Cubase 4 with all the plug-ins. I just need something to get the sound into the DAW.

I'm also considering a Tascam DP-004 Digital Pocketstudio... will that be able to simultaneously record separate tracks??

Edit: Never mind. I looked up the Tascam Pocketstudio. I can't use XLR mics.
 
Your best bet is to find a 4 xlr input mixer, a good 4 xlr input interface would be above your budget.
 
Alright. Let's say I get a 4 XLR input mixer... is it possible to get all the mics as individual tracks on an editing program (3 mics, 3 tracks/4 mics, 4 tracks)? How would the mixer connect to the computer... USB??
 
It would probably have to connect through the audiogram 6, or buy a $40 UCA (something like that) 222 USB interface by Behringer and put it through that.
 
I came across this inexpensive, 4-XLR input interface. It's the Alesis iO4. The XLR inputs have phantom power.

Will this interface suit my needs? Can it record individual tracks from each XLR- mic??
 
It even comes with Cubase, so I'm almost certain it's compatible with my copy of Cubase 4.
 
keefmoon said:
I came across this inexpensive, 4-XLR input interface. It's the Alesis iO4. The XLR inputs have phantom power.

Will this interface suit my needs? Can it record individual tracks from each XLR- mic??
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Personally I think it looks cheaply built to me, HOWEVER it probably will suit your needs, and any interface will separate the tracks.
 
I'm sorry if I'm annoying, but this is my first recording purchase... and I wanna make it worth it. I came across this mixer that doubles as an interface (I think)? I mean, it even comes with Cubase LE and stuff, so I would assume it's meant to be used as an interface. It's got 4 XLR inputs with phantom power. Will this separate my tracks?

Amazon.com: Alesis MultiMix 8 USB FX: Musical Instruments
 
keefmoon said:
I'm sorry if I'm annoying, but this is my first recording purchase... and I wanna make it worth it. I came across this mixer that doubles as an interface (I think)? I mean, it even comes with Cubase LE and stuff, so I would assume it's meant to be used as an interface. It's got 4 XLR inputs with phantom power. Will this separate my tracks?

Amazon.com: Alesis MultiMix 8 USB FX: Musical Instruments
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Oh please, don't be worried at all, that is the point in this forum, to learn no matter what stage you're at :)

And yes, the mixer will separate the tracks and because it plugs directly in via USB it will work as an interface.
 
keefmoon said:
I'm sorry if I'm annoying, but this is my first recording purchase... and I wanna make it worth it. I came across this mixer that doubles as an interface (I think)? I mean, it even comes with Cubase LE and stuff, so I would assume it's meant to be used as an interface. It's got 4 XLR inputs with phantom power. Will this separate my tracks?
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Dude you have to make sure the interface is full-duplex. Just because there are multiple XLR inputs and it is USB does NOT MEAN you can record tracks separately.

First Read This:
https://homerecording.com/bbs/gener...ltitrack-computer-interface-recording-323561/

and This Amazon.com: Alesis MultiMix 8 USB FX: Musical Instruments

IS NOT FULL DUPLEX

This one is: Amazon.com: Alesis MultiMix 8 USB 2.0 8-Channel Mixer: Musical Instruments
 
GeoffryMcDonald said:
And yes, the mixer will separate the tracks and because it plugs directly in via USB it will work as an interface.
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No it does not. USB does not equal multi-track recording. That mixer only has stereo out via USB - the next generation USB 2.0 Multimix has full duplex 8 channel recording.
 
I actually looked around only to find out that the Multimix 8 UBS only sends a stereo-mix to the DAW on a single track... the Multimix 8 USB 2.0 has multi-track recording.

So that being settled... I lowered my 'needs' to maybe an interface with 2 XLR inputs capable of multi-track recording. I figured I just want to post some drum covers on YouTube without the sound being absolute crap. 2 condenser mics should do the trick?? I'm looking into the Focusrite Saffire 6 or something similar. Any suggestions?? I'm willing do pay about $140 for a little interface similar to this one:

Amazon.com: Focusrite Saffire 6 USB Audio Interface Featuring Two Focusrite Pre-Amplifiers, Saffire 6 USB: Musical Instruments

PS. Thanks for the link to the multi-track thread... clears a lot of things up.
 
if your recording drums you are never going to be happy with that - even 8 inputs will be pushing it - save your money until you can afford what you really need. - sell some crap on ebay :)
 
Well, I'm not looking to make it 'When the Levee Breaks' quality. I just don't want to use the camera audio because it's not very good... AT ALL.

YouTube - ‪The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Fire Drum Cover‬‏

This is about a year old. Don't give me crap about the snare sound... and well, everything else. I know it's horrible, but it's 100 times better than the camera audio. Two condensers and the snare ran into a mixer, the mixer's 'mono out' went into the Mbox2 Mini. The bass drum went straight into the only XLR input on the Mbox2. It was recorded into 2 tracks on Pro Tools LE. We didn't do anything on the mixer or Pro Tools simply because it was late, and I just wanted something quick. I'm certain that I can get a half-decent sound with 2 room mics and a lot of tweaking on Cubase.
 
keefmoon said:
I'm certain that I can get a half-decent sound with 2 room mics and a lot of tweaking on Cubase.
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Well, I personally have never recorded live drums.. but from what I understand, I don't think you can :)

maybe Greg can comment on this.

I checked out the video - you seem like a good drummer - Maybe you should post the question in the drum forum or recording techniques and see if you can get a decent drum recording just using 2 overheads
 
I've looked into mic placement before I even started doing horrible recording's at my friend's place. I've heard people get a good drum sound with just 2 dynamic or condenser mics... some even sound better than a fully mic'ed kit. There's tricks to it, like making sure they aren't out of phase when using the XY, spaced, recorderman, or Glyn Johns method for overhead/room mic'ing... stuff like that. All in all, I'd think I'd be happy with a 2 XLR input interface. I can always upgrade when I get better and I run into some spare cash... which is NOT anytime soon.
 
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