Recording a friends band

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Hey guys,

So I have been on the fringe of home recording for a while, but a friend recently a friend approached me asking to record his metal band. Primarily I am a solo artist and have tailored my recording set up as such (usually myself with an acoustic guitar and then tracking multiple takes). I have never arrived at a solid set in stone arrangement for my recordings. Honestly every recording I have produced is unique in its own way in regards to softwares as well as specific hardware. I will give you guys a rough feel for what I've been using and perhaps you can shed some insight into how to go about recording metal.

Hardware:
2 Condenser Microphones (GrooveTube and another)
6 Unidirectional Vocal Microphones
ZOOM R16 USB Interface (only 7 working inputs out of the 8)
Behringer 4 Channel Headphone Amplifier
Axiom MIDI Interface
Looking to invest in a drum mic kit by Shure (6 piece)

Normally when I record electric guitar, I plug it in dry to the R16 interface and use VST's for a nice amp sound. Would running two guitars and bass dry, then applying a VST and monitoring 4 ways create too much latency for recording?

Secondly, their drummer has quite an elaborate kit with 12 pieces I wish I could record individually, however that isn't feasible, even with a 6 piece drum mic kit and a condenser mic that is 7 tracks, which hopefully could produce a good sounding drum recording.

The DAW software aspect of this endeavor is what I am wary about, presently since I MIDI all my drums personally I use Fruity Loops and the Edison editor to record .wav, however with the immense tracking that I hope to accomplish (duplicate tracks for both guitars for stereo effect as well as a full drum mic set up) I am not confident in any one program enough to jump in.

What would you guys suggest? I am running Windows 7, and have used Cubase (installed) Reaper (uninstalled) Ableton (uninstalled) Fruity Loops (installed) Cool Edit Pro (Installed, not ASIO capable, much more effective WAV editor) and ProTools Lite (not installed). As I mentioned, I am very comfortable with Fruity Loops' Virtual Instruments and MIDI, and am comfortable with Cubase for multi-track audio recording, but not highly proficient in the art of recording large arrangements of pre-written music.

What I'm thinking for a game plan right now, is to have the entire band together, record the guitars and bass together as dry inputs, then use those as the base tracks for the entire song, put the drums vocals and any virtual instruments after.

Any insight, further questions, comments or suggestions would greatly help me in gathering a game plan for helping these guys out.
 
personally i would try to do drum and bass first so there is a decent beat laid down for the guitar to jam to.
 
It all comes down to personal preference. I'm a drummer, and I record everything but the drums to a click (actually, not a click but a programmed simple drum beat). Then I do drums last. I much prefer that to doing drums first. I also realize that what I do is against the norm, but nobody's going to tell me it doesn't work for me.
 
Can you get decent sustain on a dry guitar signal running through the VST amp simulator?

Latency shouldn't be a problem just from adding multiple instruments - Cubase and Reaper can handle your setup no problem.
I use Cubase LE 4 as my main DAW and never run into any problems and i have 6 - 20 tracks - multiple guitar/bass vocal/drum etc etc

should be all set.

9 posts in 9 months! man of few words :)
 
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