Reactions to EV 767A

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Haven't seen a lot in the archives about this mic, and a guy at the store I work at keeps insisting I should consider it over an SM58 for my backing vocal mic. It doesn't hurt that I can get it at a price a bit closer to an SM58 than the usual street price(otherwise I'd just save some cash and get the 58). Also this guy does a lot of live sound so he's not just the usual some dude at a music store who randomly decides mic X is better than mic Y. Just wanted to get a few other opinions from anyone who's actually used this mic in a live situation.
 
EV mics, especially the live dynamic vocal style mics, don't see a lot of discussion around here. i guess it's b/c shures are more prevalent and people like cheap chinese condensers (i do!). :b

i've got an ev 357, and while not quite on par with the 767, i really like the 357 on some voices--especially on those "weaker" singers who need some help punching through a mix. if they can't manage to sing with a little more ass, i'll stick the 357 in front of em and it's problem solved.

it sounds a little different than an sm58, too......so i agree with your friend in that you should at least give one a try before buying an sm58. you also might want to try the sennheiser e835/845 series mics, too, as they're also variations on the same theme.

bottom line, while just about everyone sounds "ok" by default through an sm58, you might find something that's a better match for the voice.


cheers,
wade
 
I used to have an EV 757, and that mic smoked on vocals. I also used it to record sax once and I got a very smooth, pleasing tone. I wish I could find another one, but it seems like nobody's giving them up (at least not on eBay). Not sure how it compares to the 767.
 
Hmm. A few months ago I bought a 767, almost new, from eBay. A few weeks later I turned around and returned it to the stream.

I felt that it imparted sooo much upper-mid hype that it would be good for maybe a lead singer in a loud rock band. In the recordist's glossary, under "cuts through a mix", there might be a picture of a 767.

In that line of EV mics, I like the 367 (the "Female Vocalist" mic). It has the high output of the N/D series without the (to me) shrill quality. Nice, detailed sound with a fair amount of proximity effect, and feedback-resistant. Too bad EV (I believe) doesn't make them anymore!
 
That's funny. I bet I know the guy trying to get you to buy it. Anyway, I probably average 3 gigs a week doing sound and I've completely switched over to the 767 from sm/beta58s. They sound better and have less feedback issues. It was weird at first, not having to scoop out 250 and boost 2k like you have to with every shure mic out there.

Another plus I've seen so far is that people don't recognize it and are afraid to throw it on the ground like they would with a 58. I can't tell if it's less durable because no one has ventured to abuse it yet. Which I think is cool.

I haven't tried any of their other mics, but would definitely recommend the 767 for live vocals.
 
If you live/work in Madison, you probably do know him. And if you do, maybe you can email me about either doing sound or recommending someone, especially someone good w/monitor mixes. My band played a show last week with a new sound guy, apparently because he had convenient rates, and while he seemed to have nice equipment, the only thing the numerous wedge monitors seemed to be good for was putting my foot up on and doing my Iron Maiden impression.

And from the reactions, I'm probably going to go for the 767 if I end up buying a mic (last practice I mention I might get a mic for backups for the 4th-5th time and now suddenly they have an extra SM58 lying around).
 
I have used the 767's on numerous occasions and didn't like them at all. They just sounded very dull to me. Like they took a lot of EQ just to get them to seem natural. For years people have tried to put out "58 killers". So far noone has done it. This does however not mean that a 58 is the right mic for any specific person. My point is that if you want a mic that performs well, doesn't cost much, is durable, sounds good etc... etc... thats an sm57 or 58. If you want a simialr yet tighter and brighter mic than a 58, try a beta 57a, and not a beta 58a.
 
I think with any microphone (whether Shure, Senheiser, EV, or AKG) if you're in the same price/quality bracket and you're going for a specific sound you should always consider putting a Mic-Pre in the line. Most recording boards/interfaces/"pro" tapedecks have some sort of Mic-Pre included but very few are worth a lot. Having done many shows that are talking heads and bands, the Mic-Pre will do more cutting through a mix than a specific mic... If you couple that with good EQ/Compression you can get a good sound through most systems and recorded on most mediums.

With that being said, you're only as good as your weakest piece of gear. If you're going to go with a Beta 58 or a Blue studio mic, don't put it into your 4 track Tascam recording desk. Being well rounded makes the biggest difference. In a choral setting having run out of the "good mics" and not wanting to make mic moves for one song I tossed up a cymbal condenser from a Audix kit I have. Not exactly vocal quality. I passed it through a Presonus FirePod with the XMAX preamps and then through a Soundcraft GB-4 and the tone was sweet and background noise negligible.

It's all about balance.
 
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