quick? What is the standard db to MSTR TO?

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Hi there,

Do any of you by chance know what the standard db to master/normalize to is?

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WET
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to add to that...

I Have an Album of 13 songs. I want to get a consistant level. The closest dbs to pro recordings. I use Sonar...


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There is no valid answer to that. Some people will undoubtedly chime in and say -12dB(FS)RMS. Some will say -6dB(FS)RMS. There's a 100% level difference between the two.

The mix decides - The mastering engineer "controls the damage" if a particular level is requested.
 
Massive Master said:
- The mastering engineer "controls the damage" if a particular level is requested.
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Straying off topic..
As it has evolved to become an ever larger part of the job description, one could simply say.. "The mastering engineer controls the damage."
 
No doubt... :mad:

I still like to think of "sheer volume" as a side-effect or an afterthought. I only hope we can get back to when it was...
 
Massive Master said:
No doubt... :mad:

I still like to think of "sheer volume" as a side-effect or an afterthought. I only hope we can get back to when it was...
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Maybe someday the record company weasels will figure out that now that EVERYTHING is at the same level, they can REVERSE their original idea and find out that their music will stand out by being quieter... and much better quality... and until somebody takes a chance on this idea, the LISTENER will never get to hear the difference.

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I was just mentioning on another board - I was working on a project a few days ago with a bunch of "metal monsters" on it -- Tristan Grigsby (Daitribe, etc.), Nick Bowcott (Grim Reaper), Dave Ellefson (Megadeth), Jason Bittner (Shadows Fall), Tim "Ripper" Owens (Judas Priest, Iced, Earth, etc.).

Nobody known for their love of dynamic range...

And the producer's almost singular instruction (other than "make it rock") was "Don't kill it - We want it to HIT the listener a bit."

I was shocked... :eek: It's still not where *I'd* like it to be (around -15dBRMS) but it's not hovering up around -8 either...
 
Massive Master said:
I was just mentioning on another board - I was working on a project a few days ago with a bunch of "metal monsters" on it -- Tristan Grigsby (Daitribe, etc.), Nick Bowcott (Grim Reaper), Dave Ellefson (Megadeth), Jason Bittner (Shadows Fall), Tim "Ripper" Owens (Judas Priest, Iced, Earth, etc.).

Nobody known for their love of dynamic range...

And the producer's almost singular instruction (other than "make it rock") was "Don't kill it - We want it to HIT the listener a bit."

I was shocked... :eek: It's still not where *I'd* like it to be (around -15dBRMS) but it's not hovering up around -8 either...
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Well... it's a START! ;)

Now, John, you know better than anyone that unless it's pushing the plus side of zero it's just not RIGHT!

;) :)

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There was some CD that was mastered at -4dbFS and is apparently the loudest commercial disc made (?)

Thats Wikipedia for you. Some 1970s re-master.
 
Also overall level is dependent on genre of music (e.g. Radiohead shouldn't be as loud as Metal) and on the type of song (e.g. a ballad shouldn't be as loud as a rocker).

As John said there's no standard, do what sounds right for the mix and style. Ear fatigue isn't something to strive for.
 
Thank you!

You're all gentlemen and scholars.
Seriously.

If you'd like to hear some new Exotic/Psychedelic Groove Rock you can visit myspace.com/wetgrowlight

Thanks again for your advice. If you listen to my Wet Grow Light recordings and you have any recording advice or constructive criticism please feel free to share it with me....

myspace.com/wetgrowlight
 
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