Question on purchasing a microphone.

[Dariel Shariem]

I am a rap artist who does some harmonizing with instrumentals for singing. I am going to be recording various rap artists and I understand that Large Condensors don't make the huggest difference from Dynamic Stage Mics to Studio Condensors. I know it does make the diffence I wish to have though. Though Im also going to be recording Female and Male RnB vocals. I have a small budget and this will be the final step in finishing my studio for the time being. I live in Canada so the prices are usually much more. If anyone has any viable suggestions, I would like to hear them.

I mentioned my style of music (rap to RnB) because I don't want people to just tell me what they think is good and they do country and it really doesn't really apply to my usuage.

Thanks for everyone's help.

PS. I have a M-Audio Mobile Pre USB preamp... going directly into my computer.. i dont have any soundcard in it just onboard sound.. but doesnt matter cause the preamp is built in with a soundcard.. or atleast has been working like one.

 

[DJL]

What's the question?

 

[still4given]

On a real tight budget,Look Here.

Blessings, Terry

 

[chessrock]

I mentioned my style of music (rap to RnB) because I don't want people to just tell me what they think is good and they do country and it really doesn't really apply to my usuage.

Thanks for letting us know. the ones I was going to recommend are mostly only good for polka.

 

[DJL]

Don't you hate it when you need a black cowbell mic and someone keeps suggesting a chrome cowbell mic.

 

[Dariel Shariem]

I thought I would get some professionalized responses from respectable home recording engineers like myself. Not ignorant comments from people who make fun of peoples questions.


Why would I mention my genre of music, because some equipment doesn't record as good between genre's, belive it or not.


Rappers have a very upfront Dynamic sound. I don't need a microphone that can't handle strong vocals and can't get distinguishing low ends and middle balance. While still having an articulate high end that isn't coloured too much that the high to low end isn't even.

There are certain monitors for certain purposes, one more guided fro classical mixing and some more for pop music. It's basic knowledge, and I wish to get knowledge towards my guided purpose. A mic that can record good for upfront rap and RnB vocals. I have read articles before that had microphones that blow the water out of my wallet.

If you don't have knowledge for me or a microphone in mind, please dont even bother posting a response. These trivial and idiot responses about cowbells is juvenille. I don't have time and money to waste on such things.

@still4given... thanks, I don't think i would wish to purchose those mics, yet I have not tried them out. My budget can expand beyond 40 dollars, thought I live in canada, should say90 dollars..

 

[chessparov]

Dariel, it's advisable to read the review at www.mojopie.com of your pre to help guide you on microphone selection. I have high respect for the reviewer, so when he says avoid condensers with the Mobile Pre, there is a very high likelihood that's correct.

Two reasonable possibilities would be the Shure SM57 (or Shure 545 series), and/or the Electro-Voice EV 635a omni. Both are classic R& B vocal microphones, and used for spoken word.

The SM57 is a well known "rapping" mic, the EV 635a is an underated vocal microphone nowadays-although you can see old clips of Aretha, et al, sounding great through one.

The EV 635a has a relatively "flatter" response than the SM57 BTW, not necessarily better, but different. Both can be handheld also.

A cool aspect of the 635a is that it can be used for group vocals or solo, so it's very flexible.

Chris

 

[Dethska]

This link should help you out. There is a link for "rap mics."

www.hr-faq.org

 

[toadies]

how is rap dynamic? sounds like to me people talking really fast?

 

[crazydoc]

I thought I would get some professionalized responses from respectable home recording engineers like myself. Not ignorant comments from people who make fun of peoples questions.

ROFLMFAO

Maybe you should have lurked here awhile before posting.

If you don't want to wade through shit, go to the User CP button at the top -->edit ignore list and put those bozos names on it. Then their posts won't show up when you view the threads.

Oh, and welcome to the HR/BS mic forum.

 

[DJL]

This link should help you out. There is a link for "rap mics."

www.hr-faq.org

Is there a link for "polka mic's"?

 

[chessrock]

Why would I mention my genre of music, because some equipment doesn't record as good between genre's, belive it or not.

Not trying to knock you here, but that statement basically tells me that you should try and get some more experience at this. Again, no offense, but it's just simply an ignorant statement, and probably one you'll look back on and laugh at years down the road after you gain more experience at this. Mics don't have musical taste, and they don't care about the musical taste of whomever or whatever they're being pointed at.

I don't need a microphone that can't handle strong vocals and can't get distinguishing low ends and middle balance. While still having an articulate high end that isn't coloured too much that the high to low end isn't even.

Again . . . these are universal qualities that most artists and audio engineers find to be desirable, whether you're doing rap, country, or . . . polka.

There are certain monitors for certain purposes, one more guided fro classical mixing and some more for pop music.

No, there aren't. Ideally, monitors are designed to be flat, uncolored, revealing. If you get a chance to check out some bigger-name studios and mastering facilities, you'll find a lot of the same monitors being used, regardless of the prevailing musical genre of their client list.

It's basic knowledge, and I wish to get knowledge towards my guided purpose.

Then listen to what people tell you, and don't assume we're trying to insult or berate your questions. Chances are, there are reasons people react to certain questions in certain ways . . . and you can learn from that.

I don't have time and money to waste on such things.

I didn't realize it was so expensive to read silly responses on an internet board. If that's the case, then I'm most certainly going to go broke.

My budget can expand beyond 40 dollars, thought I live in canada, should say90 dollars..

Good luck.

BTW -- I happen to like the Shure SM-7 for rap and R&B. But that's a personal preference that is by no means universal. I like the sm7 just as much on everything else, too, come to think of it. It depends a lot more on the voice. Some voices just don't sound the same as others and sound better on certain mics.

 

[Dariel Shariem]

Maybe I will look back in the future and see things I found ignorant of myself. I realize that, but this will be blanked out in my mind.

Sorry a bit about my post, I was having a bad day to begin with.

From studio pro's and understudies of those people I have learned that some equipment is better for one purpose.

Like what I said about Monitors. Of course any professional monitor is good for any style of music, no brainer though. But if the monitor's cabnite (however that word is spelt) size is small or the material it is made with doesn't produce a good low end, it won't be great for hip hop which has powerful bass (if you've ever listened ot it).

Enough with the polka. I know there isn't a RAP mic. Come on, all mics do is record waves in the air. But some mics tend have a more in your face sound. Like I've used a Shure SM58. Great Mic. I've also used AKG C1000s. Another one I really liked (might be the mic I am going to purchase). Also some condensor which i didn't like. It seemed to keel out at about 500Hz down and just dived like swimmers. Didn't soudn good for me anyways. I have a very hard vocal to mic to get the sound I want.

About the Pre review. Thanks, I am goign to search for more reviews. I am just wondering if he did that on a PC or LapTop. Cause I have it one PC and that would have suficient power supply (I Hope). lol. I might just have to try some condensors on it and find out for myself. I got the preamp as a present. And I dont have any money to run out for another preamp. And a soundcard.


I might have ignore some people, lol.

About the experience, I am trying to get experience. I love experience. But having jokes thrown at me cause I'm doing rap music isn't the experience I wish for. All in all I want a upfront sound that is good for very strong vocals with myself being close to mic and then also having singing too that wont fall short there.

 

[chessrock]

But some mics tend have a more in your face sound. Like I've used a Shure SM58. Great Mic.

Then why not get a 58 if that's what you like? I use one for live gigs and as a talkback mic, but I wouldn't want to record with one. If you like the 58, I seriously think you'd fall in love with a Shure SM-7B. It's kind of similar (I think it might even use the same capsule), but a 100 X smoother, more professional-sounding, more versatile, etc.

The whole "in-youf-face" thing, by the way, is much more a function of the room accoustics, mic positioning, and the type and amount of compression used.