Ok, i think i figured it out. he Fantom used the XV series tone generation.
However, this is how it works per roland website:
A. The XV-3080 has 6 main patch banks. A, B, C, D Banks on the XV-3080 (Patches 1-512) are the preset A, B, C, D JV-2080 patches converted to XV synthesis by Roland. Preset D & E on the XV-3080 (patches 513-768) are new to the XV-3080. Total presets: 768
B. The XV-5080's banks a-f (presets 1-768) are from the XV-3080(which is also from the 1080 & 2080), and like i said earlier, presets a-d are from the 2080, and e & f are from the xv-30, bank g is new to the xv-5080 and not in the 3080 bringing the total patches to 896.
C. XV-5050 banks a-g are from the 5080 and bank H is new to the 5050 exclusively.
I thought about buying
a xv-5080 until i found on the download page of the fantom products description that roland was too kind and have all of the XV-5050 patches (1024 patches total) in a download that can dump over to the Fantom X. WOO HOO !!! I dont need to buy a XV-5080 anymore. I'm buying the Fantom XR this friday, I already downloaded the XV-5050 patches. So when I get the Fantom, Ill sysex them over and have a 1080, 2080, 3080, 5080 and 5050's patches plus all the new patched from the fantom ... that = 2048 patches !!!!!
YEAH BABY !!!
PS, in a few more weeks, Im buying a MOTIF ES Rack.
I'll have:
Triton Rack
MOTIF ES Rack
& Fantom XR
JP-8080
JV-1080 fully expanded
again YEAH BABY !!!
Hope this clears up some stuff guys.
So all you Fantom X owners can get all the factory presets from the JV/XP and XV series.
NOTE: they have all been converted to XV synthesis format (JV/XP), they will not accept a sysex dump of your own jv/sp patches.
Ciao