Question for mobo geeks, and RAM warning for everyone

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Some of you may recall my fun, fun times trying to upgrade to an Athlon motherboard. See the posts http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=46404 and http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=47210 for the gory details.

Well, call me persistant, or just stupid, but I am going for round II. Bought a MSI K7t2 Athlon mobo (a.k.a. MS-6330). It was simply the only other Athlon motherboard I could find in town that worked with SDRAM rather than DDR. So I hooked it up last night, fired it up briefly, but have not really set it up yet. And was amused to find out from Tom's hardware ( http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q1/010117/kt133-03.html ) that this board has a somewhat defective southbridge that makes ATA-100 drives slower than ATA-66. Well, at this point I'll settle for a decent game machine.

My question - this motherboard, unlike my prior (miserable) ECS board, has the extra 4 pin 12v power connector in addition to the usual ATX power connector. Does anyone know what this does, given that the regular ATX power connector already supplies 12v to the board? I assume I need to keep both of these plugged in, but I'm just curious what it is used for.

Oh, and the warning - Got this nasty story from a not-to-bright coworker today. He was working on a friends PC over the weekend, wanted to try adding some RAM to it, so he brought along a SDRAM DIMM of his own. Unfortunately his friend's motherboard used DDR. Mistake #1, he didn't check this. Mistake #2, he put the SDRAM into a DDR slot, which it does NOT fit into, and thought it was seated (I guess the slots were obscured). He flipped on the power, smoke starts pouring out of the power supply. Needless to say the motherboard is fried. Mistake #3, he still doesn't understand WHY, so he then takes his SDRAM home with him. Mistake #4, he puts his now damaged SDRAM back into his motherboard, in its original slot, turns it on, and POOF blows up his motherboard too. So hes out two motherboards, probably cpus, probably RAM, etc... In other words, a BIG SORRY.

Moral of the story - LOOK before you upgrade.
 
Your friend definately is a moron but I'm sure we've all done some stupid stuff. The problem with AMD is that any cost savings on components is usually lost in setup and config time.

Although I went thru 3 sets of BX mobo's and P3's before I finally got my last system to even boot up.
 
MOBO\RAM

The obvious lesson here is that you have to invest the appropriate amount of time and money in your MOBO and RAM. I just picked up an Abit KR7A board which supports DDR RAM - Tom rates this board 23 of 25. If the foundation ain't right the house will crumble. In my search I narrowed my choices down to two, the Soyo K7V (sound OB) and the Abit (no sound OB).

Breeze
 
tp paraphrase...

"on the ATX12V power supply... the additional 4-pin 12V output provides sufficient power for USB peripherals, as well as supporting the energy requirements of AMD Athlon and Duron processors. Also, according to Intel, the additional current enhances platform stability and flexibility. Apparently Required on i845 motherboards.

you may also have a 6-pin power connector off your power supply...this cable is in place to provide support for AGP Pro 50 cards. Because AGP Pro 50 cards require more amperage than the ATX standard is designed to deliver, the Auxiliary Power Connector delivers an additional 12 amps to bring the total available to thirty...."


xoxo
 
Thanks Camn, you are THE MAN! Hey if Soup Of The Day makes any more trips to the midwest, let me know, we will definately have to meet up again. By the way, where did you find that quote?

Cool - I agree a new DDR motherboard would be better, but in my case I got a used Athlon T-Bird 1.4 cheap, and have lots of SDRAM lieing around, so I was/am trying to get by with a "cheap" upgrade. No new on that front - I put the mobo in a system I keep lieing around for games, and just turned it on it verify it powered up. I'll probably do the set up with it tonight.
 
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