question for Alan regarding Joe Meek VC6Q and VC3Q "slope"

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What does the "slope" dial on the VC6Q need to be set on to match the
(preset) slope of the VC3Q's compression?
Thanks in advance for any help!
 
By the way, Alan, is there any way I could get a cleaner picture of those VC6Q presets on the meek web page?
They're all really fuzzy and I can't tell what the hell any of the knobs are at.
 
Vota, my understanding is that the compression ratio "floats" from
1.5:1 to higher ratios the harder the unit is hit, and that "slope"
refers to the shape of the compression's response curve.
 
From the VC3Q Manual

THE COMPRESSOR
The built-in JOEMEEK compressor is slightly different from the big studio
units like the JOEMEEK SC2.2 or SC4, so that it is easier to operate with
musical instruments. The 'ATTACK' control is variable so that the impact of
the compression sound can be varied from a gentle effect (with the attack
adjusted fast) to more powerful sounds with longer attack times.
The compression release is variable from 125mS up to 1.5 seconds giving
a wide range of effects. An in/out switch allows comparison between
compressed and uncompressed sound.
Technically, the compressor is a feedback optical device where the
compression is provided by a light dependent resistor. The light source
works in a servo loop, the compression effect is carefully controlled and the
compression ratio varies with the amount of compression applied.
During slight compression, the ratio can be as low as 1.2:1. During heavy
compression, the ratio rises to about 7 to 1 although a feature of the
JOEMEEK compressor is that the ratio momentarily decreases during
transient signals; this effect works to retain brightness that is often lost with
other types of compressor.

From the VC6Q Manual
THE COMPRESSOR
The built-in JOEMEEK compressor is slightly different from the big studio
unit so that it is easier to use with musical instruments. The 'ratio' or slope is
variable to make very sensitive adjustments possible. The attack and
release are variable and have extreme ranges. Attack is variable from 0.5 to
5 milliseconds and the release from 250mS to 5 seconds. There is an in/out
switch for comparisons. The compression control is rotary. The
compression ratio varies from 1.5 to 1 up to 7 to 1 depending on musical
content and the setting of the 'slope' control.

Seems that there pretty similar, but with the compression on the VC3Q
being so interdependent on the other controls (attack, release), I doubt that there's a direct correlation with settings on the VC6Q.
I would set the input gain, compression, attack and release on both units the same and mess with the slope on the VC6Q 'till they were close.

Hope this helps,
Carmen
:)
 
I say, slap that SM57 on up to the Champ's grille, plug it in the Meek, turn it on, turn it up, and PLAY!!!!!
 
Thanks Carmen for typing all that!
"Professor" Hyatt must be pretty busy or he'd further enlighten us!
 
Just wanted to let you know that Alan e-mailed me today.
He's been out of town for 9 days (at NAB), and when he has time he'll
check our bbs for any questions like these.
 
VotaIdiota said:
By the way, Alan, is there any way I could get a cleaner picture of those VC6Q presets on the meek web page?
They're all really fuzzy and I can't tell what the hell any of the knobs are at.
Click to expand...

Download them and print them out. The screen resolutions are horrible, but they print out perfect. If it does not work, email me and I will email you the file. alan@pmiaudio.com

Alan Hyatt
 
chessparov said:
Just wanted to let you know that Alan e-mailed me today.
He's been out of town for 9 days (at NAB), and when he has time he'll
check our bbs for any questions like these.
Click to expand...

Thanks Chess,

I am back, and it seems that my friend Carmen already posted the answers. The VC3Q is floating, but it seems the harder you hit the front end, the better it sounds. The Meek likes the higher ratios, they just seem to work and sound better.

In addition, the headroom on all the Meek stuff is like 36db. This means at unity gain, you have 36db of headroom. I mean, that is a shitload, so most never really use the front end properly, or drive it hard enough. You can slam the meter, (led or VU) well into the red and still have no distortion. You can hear it when and if it distorts, but the harder you hit them, the more they like it. For me, I ignore the meter, I use my ear and slam the front end. The results I get is vocal tracks right in your face. Guitar solo's seem to surround you. I really lay the compression on solo's.

So, there you have it. CRANK IT UP AND ROCK!!!!!!

Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
 
Thanks Alan.

The more I work with the Meek photo-optical compressor
for vocals the more I like it over even (gasp!) the RNC.
The EQ section is excellent too.
 
alanhyatt said:


Download them and print them out. The screen resolutions are horrible, but they print out perfect. If it does not work, email me and I will email you the file. alan@pmiaudio.com

Alan Hyatt
Click to expand...

sweet!
thanks a bunch alan!
it worked!
:D
 
I want to personally thank Alan, PMI and Joemeek. I purchased the last VC6Q you could find anywhere at Guitar Center. It had a problem with the instrument connector from sitting out as a floor model and getting beaten up by shoppers. I sent it to PMI for repair and I had it back within a week. WOW what great service. Thanks PMI and Joemeek
 
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