Question about MOTU 2408 Mk III or II

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Do these have mic pres built in them or do i need a mixer like the mackie 1202 vlt pro in order to hook it up to a microphone?
Also is it true that these don't work well on PC based computers?
 
There is a -10, =4 gain option with the 2402 mk II don't know about the 3. I still believe, from my experience, that you should have a mic pre when using a mic with this unit. I have the makie 1202 and I sure do use the gain on that sh*t. Don't work well with PC. I don't know who told you that. But I don't have no problem multitracking with it. I use cubase and it works well for me. Not a problem.
 
cubase uses ASIO drivers, maybe there is a problem with wdm?
 
i have heard ALL motu gear doesn't play nice with windows.
but thats what i've HEARD.
 
Cubase ONLY uses ASIO drivers if your soundcard doesn't have it's on set of drivers. Most of the top level soundcards have their own drivers. the 2402 comes with an MOTU 324 driver that works much better than ASIO. I'm telling you from using it. Like I said I have had no problems. With Win98 or Win XP. I have used it for both. Check out the knowledge bowl or whatever they call it, on the MOTU site. That'll tell you if a lot of info. I researched it before I bought the unit.
 
wordizbon,

I think you are getting confused... whether the drivers are ASIO or WDM, they are specific to the soundcard, and usually written by the card manufacturer. ASIO and WDM refer to two different standards which the driver could adhere to. The motu drivers you installed, and which you are using with Cubase, are most likely ASIO. If motu were to come up with some unique driver format, none of the audio software would know how to use it.
 
I don't believe that. Come on now, cubase nor motu are new to this game. I know motu has a specific driver for their audio card. So does digidesign and most of the other manufactors. I don't know if it's an off spring of the ASIO.
 
ASIO is not a driver, it is a standard. Motu and other soundcard manufactorers write drivers that adhere to that and other standard (such as wdm).

Audio software can only work with cards that have drivers that adhere to the standards they support. Cubase only works with ASIO drivers. Protools may have its own proprietary standard - I don't know.
 
Thats what I'm saying. It's a standard, but it's still proprietary. So it's not the exact same as you would use with a soundblaster. Thats what I'm sayin. Thats why it's faster.

Basically my point is the 2408 is great with windows. Point blank.
 
No, you still don't understand... the 2408 is not digidesign and neither is cubase. If you are using 2408 with Cubase, then you are using motu's ASIO drivers, not some other 'proprietary' driver design.
 
That is what I said originally my man. Basically the 2408 has it's own wave driver for it's 324 card. Straight like that. It's works much faster than the standard ASIO that is used with the blaster. Latency is lower using it. What are you getting at? It is. I know what a ASIO is, I don't need an explanation. I'm a pc tech. You are dragging on the subject.

Matter of fact look at one of your previous statements. ASIO is not a driver. Then you say cubase only make ASIO drivers. That is what I was sayin. Yeah it's a standard, but it is safe to say an ASIO driver, just as you did.
 
ambi said:
i have heard ALL motu gear doesn't play nice with windows.
but thats what i've HEARD.
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Untrue. The bundled Digital Performer recording software only works with MAC but the hardware jams on either platform. I've been running mkII for a few years with NO problems what so ever. And you do need mic pre's as the analog side is -10 or +4 balanced or unbalanced line inputs.
 
QUOTE]Wordzibon Said : Cubase ONLY uses ASIO drivers if your soundcard doesn't have it's on set of drivers. Most of the top level soundcards have their own drivers. the 2402 comes with an MOTU 324 driver that works much better than ASIO.[/QUOTE]
My friend, I don't intend to drag on the subject or beat it to death, but the statement you made - which I quoted above - is wrong. If now you are agreeing with me - that Cubase does only work with ASIO drivers, and that the Motu driver that you are using with Cubase is an ASIO driver, then your opinion has changed since your original statement.

The reason the Motu works better than the soundblaster probably has more to do with the hardware than with the driver.


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Track Rat, what sofware do you use? Are you using WDM drivers?
 
Damn you are getting annoying. I just told you it is an asio driver. It is an PROPRIETORY ASIO driver. What is with you. You saying a driver now though. Before you was on "it ain't a driver". Check yaself. Forget what i said before. It is a proprietory driver JUST FOR THE 324. If you don't believe me. THen you hold that argument with MOTU. I'm telling you cause I got it & I use it. I also have the standard ASIO driver. IF its cause the 324, like I said the 324 driver is for the 324. You try to use the standard ASIO with the 2408 and tell me if it works well. I know it wont. Please save it. Tired of talking about this. Believe what you want. LIKE I SAID, I USE THE 324 DRIVER. JUST DON'T RESPOND. TIRED OF GETTING THIS IN MY EMAIL. POINT IS THE 324 WORKS WELL WITH WINDOWS.
 
All drivers are 'proprietary' in that they work only for the hardware for which they are written. ASIO is a standard - not a driver. Many manufacturers write drivers adhering to the ASIO standard. There is no 'standard' ASIO driver. The ASIO standard was designed by Steinberg, but other audio software, such as ntrack, also allow for the use of ASIO drivers - so the ASIO standard is not really proprietary. Peace.
 
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