Producer vs Recording Engineer

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This is a really stupid question, but it is really bothering me.
What is the difference between a producer and a recording
engineer?
 
The recording engineer is essentially responsible for correctly capturing sounds to tape (or other media). After the recording process, the engineer and the producer will work closely on the final mix.

A producer is more responsible for the arrangement of a band's songs, the overall esthetics of a band's sound as it's going to tape or being mixed, and the communication between the sound engineer and the band. The producer also has final decision on any song/sound policy.

If a band has no formal producer, many of the producer's tasks may fall into the engineer's lap, or one of the band's leaders.

It's a bit simplified, but that's the short answer.

Bruce
 
not to mention that it can be a real pain in the butt if these roles are not identified and assigned early on in a project. Most bands don't think about this stuff and assume that the "studio" will take care of their every need ... but don't say so ... or usually don't listen to the advice anyway ... it's a catch 22 in a lot of ways for a home studio owner. Do you let the band go and do their own thing and just record it faithfully? Or do you stop them and say "Your vocal/gtr/etc is out of tune" ... or "Play this part again but put a break in here"... It's always best to assign these roles right away, for the good of the project. Good advice that I rarely follow. :)
I think Ed had a good article/tips for a band or artist to read before booking studio time. I'll see if I can find it. I was thinking of using it or writing up another similar handout for people that I record. It gets them thinking along the right lines and helps set expectations.
 
it looks like sonusman changed his web host ... so I can't find that article ... damn it was good too.
 
This about sums it up!! (found on RAP)

An engineer says, "That guitar is out of tune!"
The producer says, "It's supposed to be!"
- Joe Egan, EMP

Bruce

:D
 
Producer says 'Warm yet puchy" alot!
Engineers say "right......"
 
I think this is just one of the reasons that I'd prefer to engineer AND produce if I owned a studio... I think a lot of bands just don't think about what makes a song really sparkle.. a producer can help with that.

Isaiah
 
Although the producer is primarily the one who makes the "recording decisions" - vs. the engineer who primarily "gets the sounds to tape", there are so many other things a producer often does.

A producer may also act as an arranger (or hire an arranger). The producer often hires the studio talant or hires a "contractor" (the contractor is a studio musician who hires all the other session players). The producer has to deal with the record people - and in many cases may also have to make the decisions and arrangements for mastering and sometimes duplication.

Although I understand that this site is about "home recording" and the kind of big budget producer I have described may not apply - I have found that in my humble little studio, I often have people come to me with no clue as to how to convert thier song ideas into a finished product.

I've had to learn how to re-write, arrange, contract, communicate with mastering engineers and duplicating houses and dozens of other small but significant functions. Since I can play several instruments I've had to add/fix performances (oh yeah, I forgot I have to engineer too). I truly belive that in some cases if I didn't know how to do all these things, I'd rarely get past the one-off demo.

I do agree it is very important to establish these roles at the beginning of a project and comply with your assigned role, but I must admit there have been times where I've been limited to the role of engineer and I have to really bite my lip when various recording decisions are made. In particular, it drives me insane when vocals are flat or instruments are out of tune (or just sound like crap) and no one seems to notice, or care.
 
Producer asks everyone "what do you think?" and then tells the engineer to do what the engineer has already done 1/2 and hour ago.
 
sjoko2 said:
Producer asks everyone "what do you think?" and then tells the engineer to do what the engineer has already done 1/2 and hour ago.

Only the producer gets payed what the engineer can only dream about.
Also while the engineer mostly records super models...the producer has one hanging from his hand.
 
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