Processor/Mobo/Cooling?

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I have a big problem. I don't know what processor, mother board, and cooling I should get. I'm building this, so I don't need to make sure it works with other parts because all I got is a case. I heard AMD was more power for less money. I was planning on going with it until a friend told me it was hotter. That would require more fans resulting in more noise. A P4 would run cooler and I could get by with no case fans. I don't want it to be too loud. I read another post in this forum and it seemed like AMD was the prefered processor. I read another computer building forum and P4 was prefered. They said it was the fastest with the 533Mhz bus. I'm so confused. I don't know what one I should get (I'm still leaning towards AMD), but I really need help with cooling and the mother board. I would like something with USB 2.0 ports, and I want it cool and quiet. What do you guys recommend? It will have 0.5 gig of DDR RAM (at least I would like DDR), and a Delta 1010 soundcard.
 
I just built a system and am using a Delta 1010. It's probably not the norm, but I needed a small portable machine so this is what resulted:

Spacewalker SS50 barebones
P4 1.8
80 GB ATA 100 7200 rpm HDD
24.10.40 CD-RW
Win 2K
Sonar

I pretty happy with it so far. We run our band through it live for practice without problems. And it runs cool, it's small, quiet and portable.

My home machine is a dual Athlon workstation that I built. So I'm torn on which is better. There are a bunch of good threads on this board that address this, check 'em out. Hope this helps :)
 
Do you use any kind of fans, or do you just use the power supply fan? I've been reading other forums, but they are all about people upgrading and the end up getting processors that work with what they already have.
 
hmm

get an enermax whisper quiet power supply. No case fans, or maybe an intake, but a special one that is really really quiet, rated about 19-21dba would be good. And you can get a cpu heatsinc/fan that is made to be really quiet, i can'/t remember the name, but its on some webpages. Or go stock, they're usualyl fairly quiet. I would go amd, with a GOOD mobo, maybe Abit or Asus.
 
I have an Enermax power supply. Is that all I would need? The mother board I linked to is a Asus. That's the kind I want. So that will be good? Nothing else to cool it? Are heatsinks loud? Will that be enough? I heard the XPs run very hot. Will the ASUS C.O.P. (CPU Overheating Protection) for Athlon™ XP only help enough that I can get away with no other fans?
 
Athlon MP and XP processors do run how. I have never run them without case fans. My DAW has one small fan on the heat sink and one pretty quiet case fan and I have no issues with it interfering with my recording.

An Asus MoBo with AthlonXP 2200 will be a good machine for sure. If space isn't an issue, be sure to get a well ventilated case in the first place, then you won't have to worry so much about fans. If money isn't too tight there are other cooling solutions if you're really concerned about heat. 'bout all I can say

:)
 
I was just wondering what temperatures you are all running
wether Athlon, Duron or Pentium. Mine reaches 50' C, even
51'C. But when it's a bit cold 46-47'C. I don't have airconditioning.
I have auxiliary fans, one front of chassis and one below power
supply. Is my temperature on the danger side!???
 
You run at about the same temps that I do on my P4. I don't think 50 C is too high. I've run all the way up to 70 C on my dual Athlon without a glitch, but that's getting dangerous. Changing some of the BIOS settings I got it down to around 46 C. :)
 
You got me curious about the Bios settings you mentioned
Barometer. What are they?

I' m only using a Duron 800 with un certified fan
with generic looking heat sink. Do you think I should get
those 6000 rpm models with copper sinks from Evercool?
I'm quite a temp freak. No crashes yet. But I envy people
who can run they're Durons at 40-42'C. How'd dey do dat?

Thanks for the reply.
 
I have a Tyan Thunder K7 motherboard in my hame machine. The guy that originally helped me set up the BIOS messed up some settings so it was running really hot. I did a little web research on clock speeds, voltages, etc. and played with those settings until I got it running as intended. You might do the same, look up your MoBo, BIOS and CPU and do some web research about how you might configure your BIOS for optimum cooling. Could be as simple as you CPU speed set wrong or something. Good luck, hope this helps :)
 
Thanks for the reply Barometer,

my clock speed is at default, 100 mgz. It's a Gigabyte,
has incremental speed adjustments but I don't literally
want to play with fire. I must admit that I still don't
know much about how many of the Bios settings affect the
computer, especially temperature. I'll be sure to do some
research on that as you've suggested. Thanks again.
 
I use a AMD XP1800+(1.5Ghz) with an ASUS A7n266, Enermax quiet PSU(431 watts), and Zalman flower cooler heatsink(set on silent mode). It's quiet but not silent. Only noise coming from my system is the disk drives. My house has a constant 74.F temperature so far I haven't had any heat problems with my system even only running the Zalman cooler's "silent mode".
 
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