Problems wit WDM Sblive and Delta 66 drivers and sonar

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I play audio it plays fine for a lil bit then it slows down and sounds all messed up

my system is a
600mhz ahtlon
384meg ram
7200rpm hd
AGP TNT2Utrla


THE mme drivers don't do it they sound fine

i did play wit the buffer setting put everything to maximum safe but buffers to 10 and there was no difference
 
what OS are you using? i ask because i have a delta 66 with WDM installed and everything was going pretty smooth till i installed a soundblaster live. after that sonar wouldn't recognize my delta drivers. from what i can tell there are problems with using wdm and sonar if you have another card using mme drivers. what really sucks is that , while creative says they don't have wdm support and they don't have wdm drivers on their website, i have wdm drivers on my soundblaster driver disk, but i can't use them...since they were on the disk i thought i might be able to use them (they didn't say they were NT 98, or ME drivers) when i deleted all the drivers and files for the soundblaster that were loaded when i installed the SB and tried to install the wdm drivers i learned that these are NT drivers and i'm using windows ME...i learned these were NT drivers when the 'ok' button wouldn't work when i selected the wdm drivers...seems like i'll have to just go mme if i want to use the soundblaster and the delta with sonar....for now i've got the soundblaster disabled so i can use the delta's wdm.....if you have NT or 2000 you should be able to install wdm drivers for the soundblaster if you haven't already....
 
my sonar never recognizes them as wdm drivers, but anyway y does my audio get all messed up after a lil playback time
 
thanks for the links teacher and dachay2tnr. i checked them both out and installed the drivers suggested by teacher. the others should work with sblive, however, the tech support guy said those drivers would limit some of the features of my sblive mp3 + 5.1 card...in particular, i've got the live drive which has standard midi jacks and s/pdif i/o...the tech support guy didn't think i'd be able to use the live drive with these drivers ...i found out the reason i can't use the wdm on my installation disk is that they lack an inf. file required for windows ME to load them. the guy from creative sent me to a link for a drivers update for windows 2000 and said they would work....after a 17mb download over dialup, i got the message that files were missing when i tried to install this update. so i just updated my drivers in device manager using the drivers teacher suggested..everything seems to work fine now. i got my midi keyboard plugged into the soundblaster via the live drive and am able to play the soft synths in sonar with audio coming out thru my monitors (i have my event p5s coming out of the delta 66 via the omni i/o)...

thanks again for the links..

now back to teacher's problem.... it seems like we have pretty much the same setup...delta 66, sblive with the same drivers, and sonar....just for the record i'm using delta driver version 5.12.1.10......(as you know, clicking on the about tab in the M-Audio Delta control panel displays your driver version.)

so you can't even get the tutorials to play back in wdm mode without problems?

i haven't had any problems with playback yet...however, i just now got everything working, and since i've had sonar it has done some wacky things after it has been working ok for a while.....you should try the new patch to see if that helps (btw, thanks to Alchuck for the link, i probably wouldn't have checked the cakewalk site again for another week)....so far i've only recorded and played back music at 16bit /44.1...but at least i know that i can do it with these settings...what settings are you using ?....a couple of times i had trouble getting sonar to recognize my plug ins, but after i edited the aud.ini file my plug ins loaded again...when, i had this problem sonar also wouldn't recognize my wdm drivers......if you think that the aud.ini file may have become corrupted you can reset it so that the next time you start sonar it will detect your hardware like it was just installed...

This is from the cakewalk website :

SONAR's AUD.INI file may have become corrupted.
Easy Fix - Close SONAR and delete the AUD.INI file from the SONAR folder. After restarting SONAR you may need to point the app to your WaveData folder. (Options | Audio | Advanced Tab | Data Directory field)
Advanced Fix - Close SONAR. Open SONAR's AUD.INI file in Notepad. Delete everything listed beneath the line PictureDir=C:\Cakewalk Projects\Picture Cache
Save the file and restart SONAR


if i were having your problem i'd probably do this first, i'd then make sure everything was set to the default as far as sampling rate, bit depth, etc...of course you aren't running any other programs in the background....

i don't know if any of this is helpful to you, but since we are using similar stuff, i am definitely curious about the source of your problem.....i'm using a pentium III , not Athlon, but i'd think that your machine would work fine, so it's gotta to be a driver/software issue...

good luck
 
i just formatted and reinstalled my whole system wit MME drivers if u think the WDM drivers are worth the chance of my shit f*ckin up and me having to reinstall it I'll give it a whirl again, but the MME drivers work perfectly fine
 
so you reformatted your hard drive? i can't see where these problems are so radical as to require that. however, sometimes that's the best thing to do ....anyway, i'm not sure i'm clear about what's going on....i'm assuming you installed the WDM drivers from M-AUDIO initially, and that you were also running the WDM for SBLIVE. this is what i'm running now...i've played around with it some and it works...you get low latency with dxi and midi and with live input plug ins...and yes, audio plays back fine (so far) ..yet, i haven't done enough in SONAR to have a good idea of how stable it's gonna be. so far no serious issues....one thing though, SONAR won't let me set the latency slider any lower than 10ms....latency has never been a big issue with me because i have rarely used the real time features in music software....i haven't had a real need to bother with them....however, SONAR has some neat real time features and i'd like to see if i can really get them to work the way i want...so far i'm pleased with what i'm getting, but have only had the time to tinker ....i wonder if anyone else has an opinion about the 10ms latency thing....

i think WDM is definitely worth trying to use, however, i simply don't know enough about your system to say whether you should stick with the mme...

later gator
 
well i'm a try the WDM drivers....my comp might of messed up because the first time ididn't erase the mme drivers....i'll try one more time since this is the tech of the future
 
i guess not started hearin pops and clicks and i don't even feel like messing wit the settings...thanks for u help though
 
i admit the DELTA WDM for WINDOWS ME are not running as smoothly as i'd like them too....however, i'm not totally sure the DELTA drivers are to blame....M-AUDIO is supposed to have a new beta for DELTA WDM pretty soon....actually it was on their site last night, but they took it down....
 
Ive got a similar problem with audio/midi

Heres what Ive posted in a thread called calling all soundfont lovers its in the computer recording and soundcard forum. Maybe I should have posted in the cakewalk forum. Im trying not to post duplicate forums with the same question so Ill include a paste here. Thanks

Hey you all convinced me to try a little more playing with soundfonts. So I did and I like the result. But there are many obstacles here. in sonar 2 I improved my midi sound using the soundsite album bank which is over 60 meg! The problem is that this puppy sucks up so much memory that my audio stuff wont play without sounding like its got mucho tremelo turned up. I went crazy trying to find what I misconfigured while learning the soundfont thing and finally removed all the large memory hog fonts and went back to the 4mb creative one. Heres a question . If I run multiple tracks with midi and soundfont outputs does that increase ram memory consumption? Does using soundfonts like this overload the creative audigy card abilities as well? I also was looking for douglas drums to try and it seems the soundsite link is down. Hey where the best tutor to learn this stuff, I spent well over 5 hours already and am not even sure whats going on . let alone that Im screwing up lots of other things up along the way.
I ordered more memory to bring me to 1 gig total . I figured it couldnt hurt. Im only running 512meg right now. This may be a venture worth it while! If I can improve my keyboard and drum sounds.

Doug c asked for specifics here they are;;

Hi doug or anyone else with a handle on this stuff, Im running a 1.6 gig p4, ata100 hard disk 5400 ,with 512 meg ram, not 256 as I said in previous post. Im running xp pro sonar 2 xl. creative soundblaster audigy with a live bay for midi and audio in/outs. I did load multiple banks in options soundfonts, the big 63 meg ones thinking that the numbers where for each in sonar.Is this bad?
The audio improved some as I increased latency .
2 buffers, 40 msec,
24 bit, 44100 hz,
i/o buffer 64k,
stream 16 bit data as 3 bits.
under option instrument I have the sb audigy synth b b800 set so soundfont is selected on all 16 settings settings.The sb audigy synth a has various settings. I could not get acceptable audio while running the soundfonts even at max latency. The midi out was great,better than I ever heard midi. it was just the audio tracks which distorted!

I dont know, maybe there is a place where you can allocate how much memory the program uses and for what. I havent found it yet.
There are no background programs running.

Oh yeah; I did use the audio hq to load the larger files and I think I went to sizes like 100 through 160 meg memory use. But is there a memory setting in sonar itself which may be screwing up the audio??


Any help or enlightenment is appreciated
 
soundfonts in a soundblaster won't eat your ram...that's what makes them cool...you need a faster hard drive. what kind of ram are you using?
 
soundfont problem solved creative/xp/sonar

I just finished installing a memory upgrade to 1 g from 512k. I also stopped loading the soundfonts in audiohq but did use it to increase the available ram to 400k and only loaded the fonts in sonar options. I now do not have any audio stuttering at all. Thanks all for your insight.
William
 
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