Price on a Otari or Sony???

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Hey...I have been tossing around the idea that i want to get a 16 track 2". I have been thinking either an Otari MTR-90 or a Sony MCI I think. Im wondering how much money am I looking at shelling out to get one of these machines in good order from a reputable dealer. I know athat Cjacek gave me a few recommendations last time I asked about this... But I have seen the prices for the otari go from 3500 on Blevins to 8500 on another site...
So i wanna know how much money am I looking at droppin.
Then I think when I jump up to a nicer machine im gonna have to get a nice mixer...But thats another thread...
 
So you're still bitten by the 2" bug, eh?;)

OK, I'll say this... First off, don't look at the original MTR90 but rather the MTR90 version II. As I understand the 1st vers had numerous problems. Second, if you have a choice, first see what local studios have for sale. I've seen an MTR100A (great machine), sell for $1900 locally, after being on the market for a very long time and never selling for its original asking price of 3500. It needed a relap though. What I'm getting at is that dealers / brokers tack on an extra % on these machines, sometimes several thousand more, than real street value and that you should call around, to different studios, and see what they're selling and actually deal with a private seller. If you actually get there, ask for documentation as to the heads condition or split the cost with the seller and send off the headstack to get it analyzed. Otherwise, if the heads are shot (and you can't really know by visual inspection alone) then the machine is practically worthless. Its worth is dictated solely on the the condition of the heads.

The same goes for the MCI and whichever machine you pick, get it on condition and make sure you get a head report / documentation and do a thorough check on the machine prior to purchase. See here:
http://www.analogrules.com/buymachines.html
http://www.analogrules.com/badheads.html

As far as price, again, this depends on the condition of the heads (and also on the model of the machine).... and what it is worth to you. If I were shopping for one of these beasts, I think one with decent, a lot of life left heads, a well maintained machine with all passed with green colors, whether MCI or OTARI, would be well worth 2 - 3K, tops. The OTARI would probably be more expensive than the MCI, in equal condition but the MCI might have better part support and be easier to work on. Again, those are just my prices and my opinion. You should, however, probably make a lower offer than that.

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Thats what i was hoping to hear. I can see shelling out 2-3 thousand. But Not 7-9. So thats good news. Yeah I have to look into it more but Ive already gotten over half that saved so im gonna do it here in the next 2-3 months...
 
Take your time, do your research, ask questions, bargain hard and be absolutely 110% certain of your purchase 'cause it'd be a shame to waste the money that took so long to save up. Best of luck to you and update us.:)

...and if I were to leave you with just one piece of advice, especially as it pertains to a 2" machine, is to make absolutely certain that the recorder, whichever you choose, doesn't require new heads, as this would surely put you in the red, big time.

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Thanks for the advise Cjacek. Ill keep that in mind. What are your thoughts on a decent sounding mixer to go with what im after? Before I was thinking a Tascam 2516 or something. But I know alot of people are thinking...Man hes gonna get a nice machine and then get a little mixer for it. I dont know. Maybe that mixer would be fine? I think it looks great and all. I just dont know if it makes a nice combo?

Also I remember you recommended Blevins last time Cj. But I was hoping to find a few more places to shop at for Machines. Does anyone know of any other places like Blevins? Or should I steer clear of them?
 
Keep in mind that those 'pro' machines are +4 level, balanced XLR connectors, so you'll need a mixer to match.

Blevins is good, as word of mouth goes but they're basically resellers and thus charge accordingly.

Blevins (in the USA) and Pro Audio Europe (Funky Junk), in the UK, are probably the best examples, as far as 'brokers' of such gear. There are others but I wouldn't bother. There is a premium to pay on such service.

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