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moresound
Loud Sun Studios
When you see the president making a public speech the Two microphones (SM57s I've been told) that he talks into, are they put out of phase?
Bristol Posse
Okey Dokey
the might of his presidential will forces them back into phase
antichef
pornk rock
Just like when he flushes teh potty in Australia - the might of his presidential will forces teh swirl same way as in DC
But seriously, I heard only one was "live" and the other was backup. They're both about the same distance away from the source, so would there really be any phase problem?
But seriously, I heard only one was "live" and the other was backup. They're both about the same distance away from the source, so would there really be any phase problem?
Shadow_7
New member
If his ceremonies are anything like the ones I did in the Army, it's more likely that one is for live use and the other goes to an army of translators to service the non-english speaking types in the audience with receivers. The Band was always setup next to a half dozen or so booths for those translators when we did outdoor school of the americas ceremonies. As you hear the Sgt. Major speak, you hear echos in all sorts of strange languages. "I'd like to welcome ya'all to Fo Bennin..."
PhilGood
Juice box hero
Dude, it's Obama. Not Chuck Norris.
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omtayslick
New member
The second is a back-up. Read an article by somebody who ran sound for Bush once. Can't remember the soundguy's name though.
mshilarious
Banned
Yes. Plus, 57s work quite a lot better if you talk slightly off them. That's an extra benefit of that setup.
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moresound
Loud Sun Studios
I had thought this was the case, but someone else had told me that they were both on and out of phase For better coverage. Now I'm thinking if that was true what about the 3 to 1 rule will that still apply ?
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moresound
Loud Sun Studios
First of all I thank you for the time you were in the service defending our country I was in the 307th engineers 82nd airborne in the early 70s I was at Fo Bennin for a while. Now were the ceremonies that you did in the service overseas and do you think this is the case when The commander in chief talks in the USA too ?
mshilarious
Banned
Yes, and you wouldn't really need to reverse polarity on one of them (it would either help or make things worse depending on how the speaker was oriented towards the mics, which is dynamic). If the Prez kept his face exactly between the two mics, it would be OK. Otherwise, there could be degradation. I am in the habit of always turning off lapels when a speaker with a lapel walks up to a podium mic. That's a bit worse than the 2x 57s, but neither is idea.
Bristol Posse
Okey Dokey
Nah, Chuck Norris is so tough he doesn't need a mic, let alone two!
darrin_h2000
Banned
Ive seen the KSM44 on the podium a few times too.
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Squarewav
New member
I have seen films of JFK using EV 666's or 666-r's. I think I recall seeing Ike using these as well. I probably only noticed because I own 1 each of these.
I know, I know.... the model# is evil. Still looking for Cannon UA-3-11 (D shaped XLR)connnectors for them so I can use these.
I know, I know.... the model# is evil. Still looking for Cannon UA-3-11 (D shaped XLR)connnectors for them so I can use these.
Shadow_7
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All of my service was in the states. Fort Benning being the home of the infantry and a major training post, making most of the gigs graduations within 15 minutes of home base. 3+ of them per day, every day.
The translator portion being for the school of the americas. (aka school of assasins). Kind of a sore point with the local community, training other countries how to kill us, plus funded by the state or something like that. I only got to play for the president once when he stopped by for about ten minutes to award the base best post for that year. The most secure part of the base and he sent his double in first, which was interesting. Outside of hair color and wardrobe, he really didn't look anything like the president.
I guess that makes at least 2 presidents that I've performed for over the years. However indirectly (lobby of hotel in Jr. High) (airfield in the Army). Gore spoke to my college class after getting out of the army, but not a president, and I wasn't performing (outside of trying to keep a straight face). Mr. I created the internet talking to a class of computer programmers.
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Minion
Blow Me !!!
Well I suspect if one Mic was in Phaze and the other out of Phaze it would be pretty close to not haveing any Mic at all as an in and out of phaze signal will tend to cancell each other out and all you would hear would be the differances between the 2 signals ... Phaze cancellation is a Bitch !!!
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Cosmic
Active member
Sometimes you see one, sometimes two, and sometimes three 57s when the president speaks.
If I have this right, one is for the PA system, one goes to the White House Communications mixer (they are always there when he speaks) and the third is then for translator or other feed purposes to the house PA.
The White House feed goes to us in TV and the White House PA has self-powered speakers in case the main system goes down.
And yes, they are bone-stock 57s. I have stood at the Blue Goose (the lectern) and looked at them.
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If I have this right, one is for the PA system, one goes to the White House Communications mixer (they are always there when he speaks) and the third is then for translator or other feed purposes to the house PA.
The White House feed goes to us in TV and the White House PA has self-powered speakers in case the main system goes down.
And yes, they are bone-stock 57s. I have stood at the Blue Goose (the lectern) and looked at them.
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moresound
Loud Sun Studios
Very good thank you so they are 57s
But nobody seams to know for sure about why two? except for the times they were at one show.