Poor neglected Sonitus fx:Phase

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So this little plug in never gets used in my mixes. I've been thinking it was a phasor effect. Wrong. Turns out this is a mastering tool for checking phasing in your wave files. It has a stereo widener and can check middle/side phasing.

Anyone using this thing for mastering or stereo image enhancement?
 
I used it once to get a bit of spread on a mono house' track on a live project, but true to stuff like that, about the time it started to sound 'wide' it also got weird. Marginally successful @ about 30%. :D
Wayne
 
mixsit said:
I used it once to get a bit of spread on a mono house' track on a live project, but true to stuff like that, about the time it started to sound 'wide' it also got weird. Marginally successful @ about 30%. :D
Wayne

I have to agree - I have also used "133% Wider" effect on the master bus and haven't been impressed with the results... Sort of smears the hi-end and makes it sort of, well -- phasey...

Reading between the lines on some mastering sites, it seems like the big boys would use an effect like this up around 180% over four or five EQ ranges and then blend these mixes back underneath the original mix. Seems like it would work - haven't played with the concept yet.

Ciao,

Q.
 
This raises a question for me.

Most "mastering" programs I am familiar with (e.g., Wavelab, Sound Forge) only allow you to work with just a single stereo track (or single stereo tracks laid end-to-end for a CD layout). How do you "blend" different mixes together in this type of environment.

I can understand how to do in a multi-track program such as Sonar - but I didn't think most ME's used multi-track programs.

Is there a way to do this using masterning software? Inquiring minds want to know. :)
 
Yeah, Dachay - good point.

I read it in a reply "over there" from MASSIVEMastering (John), where he hinted at this. I had a quick look in the Mastering forum and couldn't find it easily so here I am.....

Doing it on a stereo-file would be tricky, I guess you would use use an EQ side-chained to whatever 'widener' is being used. Maybe also using a delay to further space out the EQ'd returns.

Or maybe I'm just plain wrong.

:) Q
 
They must have some type of assembly software to build the final image. You can do a similar thing in Sonar laying the tracks end to end but on different tracks. Each track getting its own processing.

The stereo feild enhancement thing is a complete mystery to me. I need to spend some time in that arena and learn what is the best hardware or software to accomplish this without creating excessive phasing.
 
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