Plugin like SPL Transient Designer?

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So, is there anything in the plugin world that works the way SPL's Transient Designer works in the hardware world? I see DigitalFishPhones free Dominion plugin, but it seems unsupported in the current era... I only find a MacOS9 version, not MacOSX. I really like the level-independent way that Transient Designer works with just Attack and Sustain controls and would like to have that mode of working available in a plug in.

Cheers,

Otto
 
LOSER has one, also scott stillwells transient monster, and storm recording studio has one

http://loser.asseca.com/

http://www.stormrecordingstudio.co.uk/

and

http://stillwellaudio.com/

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pipelineaudio said:
LOSER has one, also scott stillwells transient monster, and storm recording studio has one

http://loser.asseca.com/

http://www.stormrecordingstudio.co.uk/

and

http://stillwellaudio.com/

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Thanks! It appears that these are Windows only. I'm checking that with Stillwell. Right now I'm only running audio on my Mac, so it doesn't appear these will help out right now. Eventually, I'll do audio on my Windows laptop, once I have a FW interface. For now, do you know of anyone who does a MacOS version, too?

Cheers,

Otto
 
Ahhh, shoot no....maybe theres something done in pluggo
 
it may have been just a prerelease...Ill see if I can find it
 
I am wondering what the difference in quality is between the original SPL transient designer and these sort of plug-ins. Has anybody ever had them both?
I have various SPL equipment and am very enthousiastic about it, but always found the transient designer a bit limited as heared in demo's.
 
nononsense! said:
I am wondering what the difference in quality is between the original SPL transient designer and these sort of plug-ins. Has anybody ever had them both?
I have various SPL equipment and am very enthousiastic about it, but always found the transient designer a bit limited as heared in demo's.
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Hmmm... I actually thought the demos sounded pretty convincing as far as the ability to use one knob to increase or decrease the attack on drum tracks and a second knob to increase or decrease sustain on those tracks. From my point of view, the great thing is the way it does the things I would want to do and do them quickly and easily. As far as the plugins, some you may like better since they aren't all exactly the same and some add other features in like frequency dependent control and aural exciter functions.

Cheers,

Otto
 
chessrock said:
You ever hear of a compressor?

:D

Ha! I kill myself.
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Nope, never heard of a compressor before. But now that you mention it, downward compressors don't actually do exactly what the Transient Designer does. In fact, they can only do half of what it does (they can't expand) and generally they don't compress in a level-independent control context. Thanks for sharing, though. And I hope you were kidding about committing suicide.

Cheers,

Otto
 
ya know I didn't see the domnion really doing much. But for free what can you expect. Spitfish is killer though.Too bad Sascha never proted for OSX :( Sony Oxford blah blah blah supposeldy has a plug, but plugs shmugs - just doesn't get yu vibe liek hardware.
A compressor will not do what Transient designer will do. I think I'll just have to bite the bullet and get one.

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ya know I didn't see the domnion really doing much. But for free what can you expect. Spitfish is killer though.Too bad Sascha never proted for OSX :( Sony Oxford blah blah blah supposeldy has a plug, but plugs shmugs - just doesn't get you vibe like hardware does.
A compressor will not do what Transient designer will do. I think I'll just have to bite the bullet and get one.

T
 
ya know I didn't see the domnion really doing much. But for free what can you expect. Spitfish is killer though.Too bad Sascha never ported for OSX :( Sony Oxford blah blah blah supposeldy has a plug, but plugs shmugs - just doesn't get you vibe like hardware does.
A compressor will not do what Transient designer will do. I think I'll just have to bite the bullet and get one.

T
 
I was trying to get Scott Stillwell to chime in here, but for some reason it wont allow him to post.

Here's what he had to say on the matter:

"Hardware or plugins like the SPL transient designer are NOT compressors or expanders in any traditional sense of the word.

What they do is to measure the difference between two envelope followers with differing attack/release characteristics.

For attack, we would use two followers with short and long attack times and then watch the difference in their rise as a transient hits them. That difference is a control signal to amplify (or cut) the signal.

The same with sustain...we take two envelope followers with long and short RELEASE times and use the difference between them as a control signal to boost or cut the signal FOLLOWING the transient.

It's very simple and very cool, and there's nothing else that works quite like it...it's not a compressor, nor a expander.

It's neither, and it's both."

ETA, more from Scott

"Another difference between a TD and a comp/exp...there is no threshold. It works on differential between those envelopes...which is there just as much at -100 dB as it is at 0 dB"
 
ofajen said:
Nope, never heard of a compressor before. But now that you mention it, downward compressors don't actually do exactly what the Transient Designer does. In fact, they can only do half of what it does (they can't expand) and generally they don't compress in a level-independent control context. Thanks for sharing, though. And I hope you were kidding about committing suicide.

Cheers,

Otto
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The Yamaha O2R digital mixer had a Compander that does this same thing, but with more control.

You might try getting a RTAS to VST adaptor and then you can use the one from Storm Recording Studio.

In fact, an adapter would open up a whole new big world of plugins for you!
 
Oh, and don't be too hard on chessrock. He only teaches the retarded. ;)
 
Ford Van said:
The Yamaha O2R digital mixer had a Compander that does this same thing, but with more control.

You might try getting a RTAS to VST adaptor and then you can use the one from Storm Recording Studio.

In fact, an adapter would open up a whole new big world of plugins for you!
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Hmmm... with my old 800 MHz G4 Mac, they's only so many plugins I can use at one time! Still, I will check it out. I've been thinking about adding a Receptor at some point to take the load off the G4.

Cheers,

Otto
 
Ford Van said:
Oh, and don't be too hard on chessrock. He only teaches the retarded. ;)
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Well, on that subject, I suppose if I was dealing with a retard, I might highly recommend one of these transient designer thingies to them. Something about the whole "threshold and ratio" control thing seems to trip them up every time, and dumbing things down to only two knobs just makes things much easier for them to digest (turn "attack" knob up for more attack, and sustain knob up for more sustain -- how utterly clever).


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