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steppingonmars
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Take a listen to this mix, just wondering if the snare is a little loud, there is nothing on the 2 buss other than slight limiting on the very top peaks, we're trying to get this mix ready for mastering
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JuliánFernández
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No link, my man...
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steppingonmars
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CIRO
Eu mesmo
The snare itself is good and "in tune" with rest of band, but vocal is "behind" everybody...lacks a lot of important frequencies, I´m not sure if it will "shine"
even after the mastering (well, with the right monitoring, excellent condictions, who knows).
I think the ME can do a good job in the bass/drums section (bass lacks somenthing around 105 hz, but seems not difficult to corretc (not necessarily need a re-mix) and the rest of things sounds ok...
No, man, what Im listening (and looking)is almost an "over limiting", semi- square thing, "ready for radio", not for mastering.
Good luck!
Ciro
www.soundclick.com/openstation
even after the mastering (well, with the right monitoring, excellent condictions, who knows).
I think the ME can do a good job in the bass/drums section (bass lacks somenthing around 105 hz, but seems not difficult to corretc (not necessarily need a re-mix) and the rest of things sounds ok...
No, man, what Im listening (and looking)is almost an "over limiting", semi- square thing, "ready for radio", not for mastering.
Good luck!
Ciro
www.soundclick.com/openstation
CIRO
Eu mesmo
I´d go with options for the ME (snare - 1 /- 2 dbs ) and another version with some gain (small too) on vocals.
Ciro
www.soundclick.com/openstation
Ciro
www.soundclick.com/openstation
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steppingonmars
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Ok
Ok good points Ciro, I'll repost with no limiting, I think I left the exciter on too come to think of it. I'll back off the snare and the limiter before I pull up the vox
Thanks
Ok good points Ciro, I'll repost with no limiting, I think I left the exciter on too come to think of it. I'll back off the snare and the limiter before I pull up the vox
Thanks
CIRO
Eu mesmo
Sorry if my words sounds a little rude...
A good ME with the best condictions can do incredible improvements...but I´m making the comments based on what I´m listening.
Ciro
www.soundclick.com/openstation
A good ME with the best condictions can do incredible improvements...but I´m making the comments based on what I´m listening.
Ciro
www.soundclick.com/openstation
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steppingonmars
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I don't feel any rudeness, just honesty, that's what I want!!! Thanks
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steppingonmars
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Ok
Pulled up the vox a bit, took back the snare , cleaned up the vox a bit and nothing at all on the 2 buss
http://www.box.net/shared/8bgrzvhoo4
Pulled up the vox a bit, took back the snare , cleaned up the vox a bit and nothing at all on the 2 buss
http://www.box.net/shared/8bgrzvhoo4
CIRO
Eu mesmo
But is very different from the first version on low frequencies.Like you had something like Vintage Warmer (with loudness) on buss that goes out on second mix,then is thinner than before (drums/bass,and snare suffered too).Vocal is clear, but due to the "new" bass frequencies , now sounds too loud)
First mix was good,I talked about vox/snare balance, but listening again today seems better (sorry, my ears...)and easier to solve compared with this (lack of)lows of second mix.Any chance to have exactly the same (first)mix but "really" nothing on the buss?
Remembering, is what "I" am hearing.Maybe you need more sugestions.
Ciro
www.soundclick.com/openstation
First mix was good,I talked about vox/snare balance, but listening again today seems better (sorry, my ears...)and easier to solve compared with this (lack of)lows of second mix.Any chance to have exactly the same (first)mix but "really" nothing on the buss?
Remembering, is what "I" am hearing.Maybe you need more sugestions.
Ciro
www.soundclick.com/openstation
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steppingonmars
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Ok
I accidently left an exciter on the last mix on all the frequencies. Also you're right the limiter was slamming pretty hard. Here are some of the things I changed from the last one..
- Listened to the mix with nothing on the 2 buss, found the kick was quite loud, I had to adjust the bass accordingly, I imagine the exciter and limter where getting triggered by this and hence some sustain was carrying on the low/mids and that's what your missing.
- I also pulled a very slight amount of low mids out. Pulled down the snare 1 db and vox up 1db with less reverb to put them up front
A few questions
- are the vox too hot now or are you used to listening to the old mix? Are you becoming biased to one mix because you've heard it first? I've done this many times
- how much can a mastering engineer change as far as vox levels?
- Is this mix balanced enough to master or will he have problems with it?
I accidently left an exciter on the last mix on all the frequencies. Also you're right the limiter was slamming pretty hard. Here are some of the things I changed from the last one..
- Listened to the mix with nothing on the 2 buss, found the kick was quite loud, I had to adjust the bass accordingly, I imagine the exciter and limter where getting triggered by this and hence some sustain was carrying on the low/mids and that's what your missing.
- I also pulled a very slight amount of low mids out. Pulled down the snare 1 db and vox up 1db with less reverb to put them up front
A few questions
- are the vox too hot now or are you used to listening to the old mix? Are you becoming biased to one mix because you've heard it first? I've done this many times
- how much can a mastering engineer change as far as vox levels?
- Is this mix balanced enough to master or will he have problems with it?
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steppingonmars
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Last Mix
oh and as far as the last mix was concerned, I re saved this mix as I thought I was making small changes, gotta quit doing that. It was no good anyways due to the kick being hot in the mix
oh and as far as the last mix was concerned, I re saved this mix as I thought I was making small changes, gotta quit doing that. It was no good anyways due to the kick being hot in the mix
CIRO
Eu mesmo
It´s only "you and me"
in this thread, i´m trying to help but (to let clear)I´m just a musician with some experience with mixes listening on a treated (but small) room.Not near a Mastering Engineer with the experience+ excellent room,expensive analog gear/ "almost"perfect monitoring...
Despite "biased ears" and vox volume + or -,second mix is thin (period).
Probably what the ME will do is restore the lows you had before.
Just curious:you will mastering only this song on* an entire album?Please, show the final result.
Ciro
*edit, or , not "on"
in this thread, i´m trying to help but (to let clear)I´m just a musician with some experience with mixes listening on a treated (but small) room.Not near a Mastering Engineer with the experience+ excellent room,expensive analog gear/ "almost"perfect monitoring...Despite "biased ears" and vox volume + or -,second mix is thin (period).
Probably what the ME will do is restore the lows you had before.
Just curious:you will mastering only this song on* an entire album?Please, show the final result.
Ciro
*edit, or , not "on"
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steppingonmars
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Thanks Ciro, I'm doing a whole album, I've been trying to get sounds and levels as close as possible on all of the songs so the ME will spend his time making the sound better as opposed to trying to fix obvious problems that I've missed. You seem to have a real good ear so I value your opinion. I'll see if I have the old file and tweak it
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steppingonmars
Member
CD Done!
Ok thanks to everyone for they're help, the CD is done, I thought I'd post the mastered version and give thanks once again to everyone who helped!
http://www.box.net/shared/2v3xgjhssc
Ok thanks to everyone for they're help, the CD is done, I thought I'd post the mastered version and give thanks once again to everyone who helped!
http://www.box.net/shared/2v3xgjhssc