Please help!!!!

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I have a major problem, I am using a delta 1010 with Vegas audio
pentium 3 1 gig processor,256 megs ram, 7200 rpm hard drive

I purchased this computer distinctly to record audio with.
I am getting jerks and glitches with only 5 tracks of audio, during playback!!!!!! So the option of recording is not even an option, I am sure that there are ways to optimize my settings that I am unaware of, so if anyone can help me to do this optimization , please do. I will give any addition info that is needed, My email is
hewhosleeps@hotmail.com ,if this would be more convieniant, whatever it takes to get this machine running better!!!
Thanks in advance!!! Tucker
 
Start with simple questions:

What OS are you using?

How much free space on your hard drive?

Have you defragged it lately?

Do you have any plugins up and running on any of the tracks (or busses), if so, what plugins are on each track/bus.

Queue
 
please please please!!!!!

Hey man ,you always seem to be the guy that helps me out ,thanks!!!!!
I am using windows 98se ,I was told it is much more compatible and stable with Vegas than any other.........
There is plenty of space on my H.D. opprox. 25 gig
I defrag after every session in Vegas (paranoia ??)
I run scan disk once a week
there is one bus affect (reverb) that I am using for snare
it is a sonic foundry plug in
I even turned off the standard track fx (comp. eq. noise gate)
I know that this should not be happening ,my machine should have no problem handling this much audio , in the lower right hand corner it says I am only using 25 of 255 megs of ram and about 4% disk..........
I am not a computer genius ,but by no means am I a newbie, I have been doing H.D. recording for a few years now (cakewalk up untill I purchased deltaa 10/10 and vegas).
if there are any configuration changes that need to be made ,I am more than ready to do it !!
thanks alot for your help!!! Tucker
 
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I forgot to mention, I went in and turned down all video excelleration to low, I also went into vegas preferences and turned off ,show wave forms and events ,to try to help ,but this didn't seem to help at all.....
For now I have just rendered all drum tracks down to two, this has helped ,but I need to be able to run at least 12 tracks of audio at once , am I screwwed?? i hope not !! Tucker
 
Have you tried messing with the value in Options->Preferences... (Audio Tab) Playback Buffering (Seconds) ? FWIW, mine is @ .25 (default).

Queue
 
Yes, nothing seemed to help really, I moved the buffering up (higher) and down. but niether helped:confused:
 
Man!!!

This is a tough one!!!

Did Vegas ever work right for you?

Do you have a lot of different software packages installed?
(My brother once screwed up his DAW when he installed some software that came with a SONY mavica digital camera.)

Queue
 
when you bring up task manager what is in it? try running *ONLY* Explorer and Systray (not even antivirus software)....

even though your "system resources" (free memory and cpu resources) are 90%, norton antivirus autoprotect or some other misc software could be scanning every byte of data you're writing to and reading from that drive for viruses. (norton actually does this sometimes)

similarly, update your virus definition files and do a full system scan for viruses.

hope this helps,
nick
 
Yes , vegas was working perfect, I was getting up to 6 tracks of audio ,no problem............ This is a very bad thing at a very bad time!!!
There is nothing running in the background................
I will try to re-install vegas, ho hum ( Tucker, lowers head and kicks dirt ,sulking)
Thanks alot for the help, if anyonehas anymore suggestions, the lines are open!!!!!!!
Thanks Tucker
 
Yes , vegas was working perfect
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Can you recall what you have changed since it worked?
(System changes, program installs, program uninstalls...)

Queue
 
I have changed absolutely nothing, added absolutely nothing....
I have noticed a serious slowdown in Sound Forge as well when processing.......... hmm wierd stuff , maybe this is my imagination ,but I don't think so,
OHHH I did add Tc Native bundle, could this be the problem ???
I hope not ,I love native reverb......:( :(
tucker
 
I had a similar problem on my PC. It turned out that Win98 somehow turned off DMA access for my recording hard drive, along with my system drive. I'm using NT now so I couldn't remember the specifics on how to check it but I found this on the Net.


Optimizing I/O Transfers by Using Direct Memory Access

The advantage of using direct memory access (DMA) with integrated device electronics (IDE) CD-ROM and disk drives is that it lowers CPU usage during I/O transfers.

To Bus Master your system and determine whether your drive supports DMA:

Open System Properties in Control Panel (select Start > Settings > Control Panel)
Select the Device Managertab
Click the + sign next to the Disk drives entry
Select the drive you want to enable for DMA and click Properties
On the Settings tab, there should be a DMA check box, if this box is unchecked, place a checkmark. If there is no check box (or it is grayed out), your motherboard chipset does not support the bus master interface. If the check box is not checked after you restart your system, your hard disk probably has been automatically disabled again because the hard disk may not support a multiple-word DMA protocol. For more information see Microsoft's Knowledge Base Article No. Q159560.
You can use the same procedure to Bus Master your CD-ROM Drive.

Note: You do not need to install Bus Master drivers, they are already build in the Windows 98 system.
Click to expand...
Excerpted from http://www.windows-help.net/windows98/tune-34.shtml

Hope this helps.
 
Excellant!!! Thank you!!
I will try this and let you know how it goes.....
Thanks again Tucker:D
 
I was looking at your PC specs - they are very similar to my set up. I am using a GL 824 interface - P3 933 (sometimes dual!), 7200 RPM ATA100 drive, running Windows NT with Vegas and a fistful of plugins.

I have been working on a recording with my band. Most of the songs have 8 drum tracks, a bass track, between 3-6 guitar tracks, 2-6 vocal tracks, a percussion track and maybe a synth track. I run AutoTune on every vocal track, all standard Vegas insert FX (gate, EQ and comp) are enabled, I mix down to 5 busses (vocals, guitars, bass, drums minus kick, kick drum). Each buss has it's own set of effects assigned. I usually have a couple of FX busses too.

With the single processor, I am running about 16 tracks simultaneously (playback) with a bunch of real-time FX and am able to playback without it crapping out. Trying to then record tracks with it so close to it's limit is pointless - I have better luck if I mix everything down to a stereo track and record with it. Also, if I go much over this track count for playback, or add certain FX (Sonic Foundry Acoustic Mirror and Cakewalk's Amp Sim drain CPU performance) I start experiencing skipping and other nasty stuff. That is UNTIL I drop the second CPU in. Then I am good to go and will run out of disk i/o before maxing out both CPUs.

IMO, with your setup, you should be able to support 16 tracks playback (or 8 playback recording another 8) with a few FX without trouble.

One other thing I just thought of - what mode is your hard drive running in? When the PC boots up, does it show it as ATA33, ATA66, or ATA100? Are you seeing something else, like PIO mode 4, 3, 2,? This could make a lot of difference in hard drive performance and might require some tweaking in the motherboard BIOS settings (do you have your MB manual?)
 
Well, I only have a AMD K7 650 w/384MB RAM and I can get 24+ tracks easy with my GL wave 824 and Vegas (I haven't really tried more than that yet).

The one thing I'd check if I were you are your IRQ settings. Make sure you don't have your 1010 sharing any IRQs.

Also, for DMA to work, make sure you have a ATA100 cable, etc.

Overall, I'd say you've got some problems. Even in a totally unoptimized PC (background apps running, 5400RPM, 33MB/s transfer, 128MB ram), you should be able to play back 6 tracks with a 1GHz processor for christ's sake! I'd try contacting Midiman tech support 'cause it might be an incompatibility with your mobo or the way you installed the card/drivers.

Just a side note - dual cpus only work with GL 824 cards with NT4 and driver version 1.09.
 
gnarled said:
Just a side note - dual cpus only work with GL 824 cards with NT4 and driver version 1.09.
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Don't I know it! I want to move to Windows 2000, but can't because the GL 824 driver only supports single CPUs under 2000. If I go with Win 98, it won't use the second CPU. :( I'm basically stuck. Before GL went belly-up :mad:, they said that a WDM driver was in development and would alleviate this problem. Oh well, maybe someone will pick up the ball and finish the WDM driver - they released their drivers into the 'public domain'.

Overall, NT4 is OK I guess, although it lacks the DirectX support to run some new, cool DX plug ins. Bummer.
 
:D Allright!!!! Finally ,I have made much progress !!!!!!!!
I have optimized DMA, and all other suggestions that were given.
Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!
The breakthrough came when I uninstalled adaptec direct cd....... Don't know why, but there seams to be a driver conflict.... All I know is ,A friend suggested I remove it ,so I did and that seemed to instantly make a huge differance !!!!
I have had it up to 12 tracks of audio playing ,while recording stereo , and just for the sake of pushing the processor I added 4 busses with Native reverb cranked out to about a 30 second huge verb...... It handled it all no problem whatsoever!!!!!
I couldn't be happier!! Thank you!! Tucker
 
I am glad that you got things worked out.

It is f*cking frustrating when you can't get the computer and your music to work.

:)

spin
 
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