Please help me pick out a PC (newbie, well sorta)

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...what Polaris said!

Ed, are you telling me you use a 16bit, noise infested onboard audio card for your final mixdown?

No wonder you don't have problems recommending Dell's - you have no idea what it takes to produce somewhat pro quality sound - you're just some hobbyist throwing in his $.02!
 
Polaris20 said:
You say you use the integrated sound, because you record on a Fostex and you mixdown on the PC? You don't really use the integrated sound for mixdown, do you?

That's correct, and it has yet to offer any problems for me. I have no complaints from anyone on the mixed results.

This is a home recording based forum, and that's exactly what many of us do. For some it may be a hobby, for some a profession, and for others something inbetween.

The original request from Steve L here was for Desktop info, as he was planning on switching from a laptop. He seemed to be looking for basic info and commented he planned to either get a good sound card or continue the USB approach.

What a number of people have offered was their opinion, based on their experiences.

Ed
 
brzilian said:
[BEd, are you telling me you use a 16bit, noise infested onboard audio card for your final mixdown?

No wonder you don't have problems recommending Dell's - you have no idea what it takes to produce somewhat pro quality sound - you're just some hobbyist throwing in his $.02! [/B]

I find it interesting that you seem to know how my system sounds, when you have not heard it. I somehow think that "noise infested" might be a little bit over the top. Of course these are the same comments from someone who in another thread was offering advice on how the drivers in Windows 2000 were interchangeable with XP.

Recorded music has been produced for 70+ years. Most of it was produced using gear far less capable that a simple digital recorder and PC based system of today. However that did not stand in their way of making pretty good music.

Sometimes people get caught up in pureists approach to hardware. They become convinced that unless folks are using the absolute best of stuff, what they produce must not be good.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Many decades ago, when I first started as a drummer, I had this position. We were young and had relatively cheap gear mostly from Sears Roebuck. We sounded fair on a good day. I always thought if we could just get better stuff, we be so much better as a band.

We played a small club where some high rollers were patrons. One such person was there and wanted to hear Stardust. None of us had a clue of that song, but it mattered to the club owner. There were these two brothers there who also played and sang. The owner requested that we let them play the song and provide backup.

Larry and Willie steped up to the stage and played the song using our Harmony guitars and Sears ampliers. I played drums. From their first notes, the value of that cheap gear from Sears jumped at least 20 fold. It was that night I learned well that ability and experience make far more difference than suff.

Ed
 
Ed Dixon said:
Of course these are the same comments from someone who in another thread was offering advice on how the drivers in Windows 2000 were interchangeable with XP.


And they are, except for your obscure example of a modem and USB devices which you did not care to mention.

All my USB devices (Midisport USB MIDI interface, printer, scanner, soundcard, Motif synthesizer, Canon MiniDV camcorder and digital camera) use the exact same 2000/XP driver.
 
The point is that they are not always interchangeable. Some work and some do not. It's fortunate that most do, but many do not.

Ed
 
OK Ed, but it's time to give up this argument. There are several people here that have had and continue to have bad experiences with Dell, and you continue to argue that they are fine.

Youve made your point so listen to ours. They might be o.k. as an average PC for games, spreadsheets etc....They are not recomended as a DAW as most DAW users are anything but average.
 
I think that is a good suggestion.

It's clear that expereinces vary, as do how the PC is used for recording.

Ed
 
Ed Dixon said:
I think that is a good suggestion.

It's clear that expereinces vary, as do how the PC is used for recording.

Ed

Amen :cool:
 
Ed Dixon said:
I find it interesting that you seem to know how my system sounds, when you have not heard it. I somehow think that "noise infested" might be a little bit over the top.

Do you have some sort of special edition of crappy onboard audio?

Come on Ed. this is a home recording site.

But even the lowest of systems around here use at least a Creative Audigy, which is better (albeit not by much) than onboard sound.

This thread has gotten really funny all of a sudden.

I guess I'll let this Dell vs. good PC's argument go. Again.
 
the sneak said:
does everybody hate MACs??? How bout a dual 2 gig G5?

I'd take an Apple any day of the week before I'd buy a Dell.
 
Polaris20 said:
Come on Ed. this is a home recording site.

But even the lowest of systems around here use at least a Creative Audigy, which is better (albeit not by much) than onboard sound.

Yes, this is a home recording site, and that's what I do. I don't doubt that many have much better monitors and sound cards for their work. However what I have works fine for me.

One you learn the system you have, regardless of what it is, mixing becomes a somewhat ear based approach. The end result is an audio CD that is used on external sound systems.

When I first started with this system I found that the resulting CDs had too much bass when reviewed on other standard external systems. I adjusted the bass settings on my system here as a result. Subsequent CDs worked much better.

Ed
 
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