Please Help! Just Bought a TM-D1000 and I'm not sure it's what I need

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Hello,

I tend to pride myself in my research skills but this is one time I may have made a boo boo. Lemme tell you my setup to begin with. Mac G3 (2 free PCI slots), Cubase VST, Akai S2000 (8 out + DI/O), MC303 groovebox (to be replaced by Virus Rack and JV I'm thinkin')

So, I decided that my Tascam M-08 lacked inputs and I've been deciding on effects. I assumed that, since I used my computer as a multitrack recorder, I could somehow steal the TM-D1000 channels 9-16 with some sort of preamp. Well, I can, but the 8 channel Tascam Pre-Amp will bring my price up Higher than a Mackie CFX16.

So why am I asking this in the Computer forum you ask? I rock mostly beats and jungle and have been using Cubase solely in the past as a midi controller or for large samples that I want to add effects to. Since most of my equipment is external to the computer, do y'all think I should:
A) Get a 16 channel mixer like the MackieCFX16 and continue working the way I have in the past.

OR

B) Keep the TM-D1000 and figure out some sort of TDIF marriage between Cubase (PCI card?) and the mixer?

Also, It looks as though both the mixer and cubase are set up to SEND MMC but not to receive... Apologies for the long post but I'd really like to upgrade my 'studio' and get going again.

Thanks in advance, Miro
 
ok. Its true, a digital 16 channel mixer is gonna cost you more than a mackie. Buut thats because it's gonna sound about a JILLION times as good, too. Since I got my tascam I can't imagine recording off that old mackie I had. EVER.

Anyway, that behind us... Id say dump the extra money in and stick with the tascam. Its more versatile and sounds way better than a mackie... and the effects are nicer, too.

It's too bad you have a Mac... I dont think a Mixtreme works with it... but the Tascam card does.. http://www.tascam.com/ProductsTemplate.cfm?Category=Computer_Recording&ProductName=PCI-822

Its only 8channels, though. If you want 16 at a time, you'll need 2. And it has MIDI, too, for your box.

My advice: set your sights high... start out with 8 channels.. eventually get the mic expander and another card..TDIF has been a GREAT interface.. the cards will always be good. Eventually you could get a tmd-4000 or something if you wanted to get more-pro.. and you could still use those TDIF cards.

xoox
 
camn. I have a similar question for you.

I have purchased the TMD-1000, and I am waiting for my PCI822 card to arrive at my electronics dealer.

Should I use the TDM-1000 to import my tracks into my computer?

Will my songs be able to be more than just 8 tracks.

I have a new computer.

PIII
833mhz
256ram
133bus
30gig HD

SB Live
Delta 66
2X2 USB midisport

Cakewalk 9
VegasAudio 2.0
Cubase VST
FruityLoops
SoundForge 4.5
Acid 2.0
Rebirth

Akai MPC 2000
Roland ASR X PRO Expanded
Yamaha CSX2

I am a little confused?

I needed to purchase a board.

I wanted to be able to connect more things to my computer (inputs).

I wanted to be able to EQ my various tracks better.

I wasn't sure if I should buy an analogue board or should I buy a digital board.

Most of my songs are not more than 16 tracks.

But...

I like the fact that by using my computer I can have more than 16 tracks.

So, by using the TMD-1000 will I only be able to EQ and import 8 tracks at a time into my computer? (Example, 24 track song, therfore making 3 sweeps of 8 tracks).

Or will I only be able to use 8 tracks period for my songs?

Because I am guessing that I can import my tracks into the computer through my TDM-1000 8 tracks at a time (to equal 24 tracks).

Now, once I have the 24 tracks in the computer, I can then mix them down by using Cakewalk, Cubase, or Vegas Audio.

Correct???

Thanks in advance...:)

SPIN
 
you'll be able to import 8 at a time... for the time being. Until you get the expannsion pack.

Your songs could be far bigger than 24 tracks... CEP goes up to 64, for instance.

xoxo
 
Camn,

you say the digital is FAR better the a analogue right? Does the digital mixer provide the A/D conversion as well? ie do i need a soundcrad when buying digital mixer...

thanks.

guhlenn
 
ok nevermind, figured it out... saw the tascam page...

still don't get why th tdm-1000 is better then a mackie. pure on specs the mackie would stand out.

is there a reasonably priced digital mixer with like AT LEast 12 mic pre's? or am i pushing it here?

i don't know why but i remember vaguely someone bashing digital mixers because they didn't sound good.

help me out here please?

guhlenn;)
 
camn is one helpful fella

Hello all,

After a full day of user group scrubbing and a few chats with camn, I've come up with this configuration.

- Keep the TM-D1000
- Don't buy the S2000 8 out analog
- Buy a PCI card with a TDIF interface (PCI822, MOTU 2408)

FOR CREATING TRACKS
- Use the S2000 (2) Line outputs for mixing all of my AKAI midi channels (up to 16)
- Shut off all of the Channels but ONE or TWO and lay them down into Cubase (repeat until done) via TMD1K/PCI822 DI/O
- Use the TMD Analog inputs for Virus Rack, Groovebox, TTables, etc...
- Reroute the Analog Ins to the TDIF Outs and lay them down into Cubase

FOR MIXDOWN
- Assign Cubase tracks to 8 TDIF outs so I can add more effects, EQs, etc in the TMD
- Re-record on Mac
OR
- Do final mixdown in Cubase and save as AIFF

Does this sound right to folks?

I'm also looking at the new Mac G4 733 (yum!) I've got a bunch of Steinberg guys telling me about all of these cool externally controllable virtual samplers and keyboards they've got in beta. One fellow told me he's so stoked, he's going to sell his JV1080 with 3 expansions and replace the whole darn thing with virtual keyboards!

Gotta love technology.

Miro
 
All,
You should be able to get a TMD on ebay(buy with paypal) for $350 to $450. If you go to Muscians Friend, go to DashBar first and save an extra 5% off the $499. TMD automates Emagic with MMC and there are presets on the TASCAM bb.
Chuck
 
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