pintech escape

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i have about 1000 bucks to spend on an electric kit and i already have a brain(old yamaha tmx) and i was wondering if any of yall have an opinion on the pintech escape drumset or if anyone knows of a better suggestion,i havent played anything but rolands but i think i would rather have something with mesh heads so the pintechs look pretty good, so anyone know anything?
i also noticed the roland td3 drumset said the pads were dual zone and the cymbals were dual zone and choke, but does the td3 module that comes with them support all of those functions?
 
For $1000 I'd first shop used to see if you cant find a complete Roland Vkit with mesh heads thats somewhere near that price. Theres some good ones on ebay right now.

If not, Pintech and Hart make cheaper mesh drums than Roland. A Hart Prodigy ($500) may actually be a better buy for you than the Pintech if your module only supports single trigger inputs. Even if you did get a better module that supports stereo pads later, you can still expand any mono pad kit by using Y adapters that will allow each input to feed two mono pads at a time rather than one single stereo pad per input. I built my own kit this way and preferred the having the choice of what type of pad I wanted those alternate rim hits to be instaed of having them confined to being part of each drum (who rimshots toms anyway?). The only stereo pad I use is the snare which has a more real to life rimshot application (Note that a dual zone pad can also allow sound variation between the center and edge of the pad with certian higher end modules if thats your thing)


I think for module you have, either the Hart ot Pintech would both be good choices and you'd have enough money leftover to purcahce few extra pads. To answer your TD3 question: YES, I believe it does support all dual trigger pads but It might not be a significant enough upgrade from your current module to justify replacement unless you get it used for cheap or if it comes as part of a package deal. A Roland TD6 or better would a more worthy upgrade to save for.

Check out this link to compare a few kits:
http://www.musiciansbuy.com/list.asp?cc=de&o=pd&parms=2html&bc=&pg=2
 
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ok thanks, yeah i have scoped musiciansbuy(they have great free gifts) and ebay too , but everytime i use ebay i put in a bid at the last minute for something and and one of those auto bids always beats me ..... its really discoraging :(
 
I speak from experience...don't get a hart kit.....I would go with a roland kit first, followed by a yamaha kit.
 
Re: used Roland, be advised that the cheaper V-kits from a few years ago had defective cymbal units that fractured internally causing the choke and cymbal to fail. Roland replaced them at first, then just cut the owners loose. The units were discontinued, but there are a lot of them that are being dumped by people who got burned on them, so be careful. The ones to look out for are the CL-2 or CY-2, something-2 cymbals.
 
thanks guys, especially the warning about used rolands cymbals didnt have a clue, its pretty much been narrowed down to the roland td3sv or the pintech escape with my old yamaha brain, my big concern though that has been brought up is the roland cymbals seem to be alot nicer than the hart ones, anyone have and opinion
 
I would disagree with the Hart Dynamics comment.

I bought a Hart Dynamics Custom kit about 2 years ago and it's great. I did a hell of alot of research at the time and the general gist was that Hart make the most realistic feeling pads, although they might be a bit more noisy.

I am actually UK based and so, beleive me it would have been a lot easier to get a Roland kit as I had to get the Hart kit shipped over. I am so glad I chose the Hart Dynamics.

Any mates that have played my kit are amazed at the feel and so far everyone who has tried both agrees that they are better than the Roland pads. The one slight drawback I have noticed is they do make a bit more noise than the Roland pads.

Oh yeah, as for Pintech I tried some of those pads a few years ago and again they didn't quite have the same realistic feel, which for me was the most important thing.

Just my opinion.

Good Luck
 
Sorry, I didn't notice the comment about the cymbals.

I have the Hart Ecymbals II.

They have a rubber gum section for quiter playing and the rest of the cymbal might as well be a real cymbal in terms of feel, rebound etc. Of course my kit is quite old now and I beleive Hart so some brass cymbals as well now. Of course, the ride is dual zone with an extra output for the bell.

Just checked their site to and now it looks like they've upgraded the original TE3 style mesh heads to reduce the noise issue.

While i'm at it, make sure whatever you get has a continous style Hi-Hat pedal. The hart peddal I have is great (I reallly do not work for them!)That way, if your brain/module supports it you can have varying degrees between open and closed hi hat.

Finally, im not sure about the other companies, but Hart give you a life time warranty on all parts, so they will always replace stuff if it breaks. Hope it doesnt happen to me as I'd have to get it shipped to them and then the replace shipped back to the UK.
 
ok thanks again guys but anyone know got any opinions on the cymbals with the hart set(tc series dual zone for crashes and ride and a single for high hat) i know the roland are pretty solid but those just look a little bit flimsy, but i really cant say anything cause i havent played them before.
 
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