Phat Drums.

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I think the balance is OK, but is the reverb natural (the room itself) or is it a unit or plug in? It kinda takes out all the punch.
 
I added a little reverb to the kik and snare with a plug-in yeah. I understand what you mean by reverb taking punch out but it doesnt take all the punch out. Theres still plenty there like. :)
Cheers for listening PhilGood.
Eck
 
ecktronic said:
I added a little reverb to the kik and snare with a plug-in yeah. I understand what you mean by reverb taking punch out but it doesnt take all the punch out. Theres still plenty there like. :)
Cheers for listening PhilGood.
Eck
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Yeah, it has punch. I look forward to hearing a track with them.
 
Hats and cymbals sound good to me. Compression? What is that. :p

Snare sounds muffled a bit. Like mine do _all_ the time.

Bass sounds good to me. I'm sorry I'm not much expert help here but real drums just sound really nice and real to me. :)
 
Thanks Bubba.
I did use a little compression on the cymbals which tamed some of the harshness.
A bit of compression on kik and snare although not too much as I wanted to keep the punchiness kinda sound.
I was pretty happy with the snare. I thought it was pretty snappy and bright but ill take another listen to it as theres still alot I can try.

Eck
 
Maybe I used the wrong word. Muffled may not be the right word. :)

The snare seems to have two pieces to it. This is how it appears to me.
The snappy piece and a little "bing" (if you will) on the high-end side. So it appears to me to be either a bing or the snappy sound. Depending on which one I focus. If I focus on the "bing" I seem to think the rest of it was muffled.

But overall muffled was the wrong word to use here. :) Also, I kinda like the bing.

Besides, in the whole mix it might be a desirable thing. More than that, you probably wanna wait for some other drummers to be along and give their opinions. :)
 
Sounds really good Eck. Lots of richness. What kind of room was it recorded in?

Tim
 
bigbubba said:
Maybe I used the wrong word. Muffled may not be the right word. :)

The snare seems to have two pieces to it. This is how it appears to me.
The snappy piece and a little "bing" (if you will) on the high-end side. So it appears to me to be either a bing or the snappy sound. Depending on which one I focus. If I focus on the "bing" I seem to think the rest of it was muffled.

But overall muffled was the wrong word to use here. :) Also, I kinda like the bing.

Besides, in the whole mix it might be a desirable thing. More than that, you probably wanna wait for some other drummers to be along and give their opinions. :)
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Ive got you now. Its actually two snares. You have good ears.
I uesd the original snare track which has the ringing bing i think you are talking about and also has a sample that i recorded and placed under the original snare to give it more crackle.
I didnt like the original ringing, but with the crack snare sample and the rest of the mix it works well.
Cheers for listening dude. :)
Eck
 
Timothy Lawler said:
Sounds really good Eck. Lots of richness. What kind of room was it recorded in?

Tim
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It was recorded in a large room with soundproofing. Its not the room you are hearing though apart from maybe in the OHs. I added a little room reverb plug-in to it.
Thanks Tim. :)
Eck
 
Mix sounds alright, would like to hear it in the song because I'm sure it would sound great. As for the actual playing, timing is off, you're anticipating the beat... Other than that, I look forward to hearing the mix.
 
packratlouie said:
Mix sounds alright, would like to hear it in the song because I'm sure it would sound great. As for the actual playing, timing is off, you're anticipating the beat... Other than that, I look forward to hearing the mix.
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Yeah there are some minor time faults. but what the yehh! ill overlook them. :)
Does that mean the drummer is playing to early at times?
Eck
 
I like the sounds of these, but agree that I would like to hear them with some other music in a song. The reverb you have might fit just right with the right other sounds, and could be wrong depending on how the song progresses. Sounds pretty live to me...meaning a natural sound. But, not being a drummer, and very seldom using real drum tracks, I don't have much experience here.
Ed
 
Dogman said:
I like the sounds of these, but agree that I would like to hear them with some other music in a song. The reverb you have might fit just right with the right other sounds, and could be wrong depending on how the song progresses. Sounds pretty live to me...meaning a natural sound. But, not being a drummer, and very seldom using real drum tracks, I don't have much experience here.
Ed
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Cheers Dogman. Gotta keep the drums real (or mostly real!) :)
Yeah the reverb sits nice in the mix. Gonna post the mix soon and I think ill call it "Phat drums in mix" so folk know what it is.
Yeah I agree abou the live sound to the drums. Thats from using a good bit of the OHs and some nice reverb on the kik and snare.
Thanks
Eck
 
I dig this. Out of personal taste, I love the sound of reverb or a larger room on drums. I"m not too picky about drums sounds, just like them raw and rocking, so don't have too much more to say other than I think it rocks. Look forward to hearing this with some serious guitar on board ;)
 
ecktronic said:
Yeah there are some minor time faults. but what the yehh! ill overlook them. :)
Does that mean the drummer is playing to early at times?
Eck
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Yes.

There is a certain range of delay or anticipation a drummer can have on a beat which is acceptable to the ear, and doesn't sound "out of time", but causes the listener to want to jump ahead, or fall behind while listening to the song (if that makes sense).

The trick in most recordings is to lay back a bit on the snare hits, and cymbal crashes.

Gets more feel into the song, and sets a nice base for a great song in the works.
 
Sounds good. Glad to you mentioned the triggered snare, I knew there was something not 100% real about that drum track. But it sounds good.
 
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Anymore, I like to turn cymbols way down. I've killed my songs by having them too loud before. A pro once told me: set the cymbols how you think they will sound good. Then cut that in half. He was pretty much right I've found. All else sounded killer!
 
Awsome. I like the sound of the compression, and without hearing the rest of the band, it is hard to tell, but the verb might fit well.
 
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