Hard2Hear
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I think if you play on a good tube amp you will find out the answer for yourself. I remember playing on one of those in about 1992, when they first came out. I was young and impressionable and the salesguy tried out the pitch on me about the "tube warmth" and all. I think they are proably a fine SS amp, though I personally won't buy anything from Peavey now that I can afford to be an amp snob.
But it's not a tube sound in any way.
Just my opinion
H2H
But it's not a tube sound in any way.Just my opinion
H2H
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Carter Simcoe
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Ive reached the conclusion a long time ago that the only way to get a tube amp sound is with an actual tube amp. Ive played pretty much all of the peavy "fake tube" amps and they all supported my theory.
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Tweedville
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I think the real answer is that solid state amps have their own good sounds.........I've played through some that have been incredible,but it's different than a good old tube amp.
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Carter Simcoe
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excellent point tweedville, many solid state amps to sound great when they are taken for what they are and not compared to tube amps.
six
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what if you compare them to other tube-modeling amps like yamaha or line6?
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Carter Simcoe
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Ive played the yamaha and line 6 amps (havn't played a cyber twin yet). In my book I think the peavys are much better than the modeling amps. I don't think the modeling amps even replicate SOLID STATE amps very well. If you want a bunch of so-so to decent amps get a modeling amp. If you want one great amp get something else. Just my opinion.
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JoanisT23
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The cyber twin is a tube amp. You select what amp you want and it wires the sound through the certian tubes that that amp used.
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Carter Simcoe
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Wow, that sounds fucking awsome. I just asumed it was fender's stab at the digital craze. Ill have to go check that thing out.
dragonworks
Banned
Am I to assume that the cyber twin has different output sections with different tubes. 6550's, el34's 6L6's,
7027a's etc. That must be one hell of an expensive amp with all them swithcable output stages. If it doesnt how does it emulate all those sounds.
7027a's etc. That must be one hell of an expensive amp with all them swithcable output stages. If it doesnt how does it emulate all those sounds.
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Tweedville
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The Cyber Twin only has 2 12Ax7 tubes........the rest is solid state.But what a sound! I had the joy of playing through a demo,and it was really nice.Real sounds that
are pretty convincing,although in all fairness I have to say that you have to program everything to your touch.This is the real deal......it actually shifts the tonal circuitry around according to which amp you choose.No
gaggy,choking noise gate sounds (at least what I heard),the compression sounds like a tube waving the white flag....and at a retail of $1700,it's a pretty fair bargain.You can put a volume pedal into it,and program it to be a wah-wah! 2X65 watts.There are some downloads on Fender's website,I believe,that show some of the sounds.....they aren't as good as what I heard live though.
are pretty convincing,although in all fairness I have to say that you have to program everything to your touch.This is the real deal......it actually shifts the tonal circuitry around according to which amp you choose.No
gaggy,choking noise gate sounds (at least what I heard),the compression sounds like a tube waving the white flag....and at a retail of $1700,it's a pretty fair bargain.You can put a volume pedal into it,and program it to be a wah-wah! 2X65 watts.There are some downloads on Fender's website,I believe,that show some of the sounds.....they aren't as good as what I heard live though.
Slackmaster2K
Gone
Let's all join hands, close our eyes, and will the demise of Peavy once and for all. It is ok to blame them for their own existance you know.
Slackmaster 2000
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Treeline
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I spent a little time with a Peavey Ecoustic today. (That name - "Ecoustic" - why don't they take themselves a little more seriously). 100 watt, 2 channel, one with XLR and high - impedence inputs, 12 " speaker. Each channel has a small graphic EQ and basic reverb controls. The amp is voiced for an acoustic guitar and marketed to an acoustic oriented musician.
I played a Taylor 12- String jumbo, maple sides / back (pant, pant) with a Fishman Matrix (I think) dual source signal. I then played the other end of the spectrum, a Tacoma carved archtop jazzbox, sitka top and wild flame maple back & sides, all solid woods, with an EMG floating magnetic pickup. This is a neat and clean acoustic jazz guitar that has tone and volume controls peeking out from underneath the pickguard.
The Taylor sounded magnificent though this amp. Very bright (although perhaps inherent in a 12 - string) and balanced. Now, perhaps that guitar would sound good through a transistor radio, but I had been skeptical and was pleasantly surprised by the sound.
When I tried the Tacoma, I found it to be very bottom end heavy, with weak highs - not what a jazzbox should be. I fooled around a while, and finally cranked that sucker up to a rude level. What a change. This amp really came to life and I had a real jazz sound, with punchy highs and quick delays. Both guitars responded to a "presence" tone control.
So I dunno, nobody is doing any modeling here, but for under five bills, this packed a pretty serious punch with two radically different signals. Enough so that I might go back and experiment some more.
Maybe the way to look at this stuff is to listen to the sound without preconceptions of what it "ought to be" or "tries to emulate." Sounds pretty good, all in all.
Now, if I can find an extra SWR California Blonde kicking around, I will probably get converted.
I played a Taylor 12- String jumbo, maple sides / back (pant, pant) with a Fishman Matrix (I think) dual source signal. I then played the other end of the spectrum, a Tacoma carved archtop jazzbox, sitka top and wild flame maple back & sides, all solid woods, with an EMG floating magnetic pickup. This is a neat and clean acoustic jazz guitar that has tone and volume controls peeking out from underneath the pickguard.
The Taylor sounded magnificent though this amp. Very bright (although perhaps inherent in a 12 - string) and balanced. Now, perhaps that guitar would sound good through a transistor radio, but I had been skeptical and was pleasantly surprised by the sound.
When I tried the Tacoma, I found it to be very bottom end heavy, with weak highs - not what a jazzbox should be. I fooled around a while, and finally cranked that sucker up to a rude level. What a change. This amp really came to life and I had a real jazz sound, with punchy highs and quick delays. Both guitars responded to a "presence" tone control.
So I dunno, nobody is doing any modeling here, but for under five bills, this packed a pretty serious punch with two radically different signals. Enough so that I might go back and experiment some more.
Maybe the way to look at this stuff is to listen to the sound without preconceptions of what it "ought to be" or "tries to emulate." Sounds pretty good, all in all.
Now, if I can find an extra SWR California Blonde kicking around, I will probably get converted.