PCI Interface Question..

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I agree. I never had any problems with the drivers on my delta 44.

As far as the pci thing goes, well pci won't be going anywhere for a while in the PC world. You'd have to look pretty hard to find a motherboard without a pci slot.
 
no problems with 1010lt driver either. i think his issue will be with vista.
 
I am.. but the thing is that in Vista, there are no drivers for this card, so how can I use it and have it work in my Vista partition?? My XP partition is STRICTLY audio.. i don't use it for anything else. My vista partition is for games, internet, downloading, movies, etc.

It really sucks that I can't use the delta card in Vista, however I totally forgot that my mobo comes with a mini-pci audio board that plugs in a special slot on my mobo. I used it when I first built my tower and never had a soundcard, so as Altitude mentioned, I can use the delta in XP , and once I'm in Vista, I'll just use the onboard chip.. should be good enough.

I did buy a 1010lt yesterday on Ebay, so I'll be sure to let you guys know how it is once I get it and have it installed and working :)
 
altitude909 said:
Whatever. Did you hear that from someone that once talked to someone that had talked to someone else again?
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I owned a 1010LT. No, I didn't use it under Windows, but their Mac drivers broke nearly every time Apple released a software update (about every two months). Every little thing broke their drivers. It was the worst experience I've ever had with any device driver. Ever. I could probably rant for hours about all the things they did wrong in developing the driver... like using a startup item because they didn't want to bother doing proper driver matching/enclosure for 10.2 support. Instead of doing something that would take fifteen minutes, they did a ten minute hack job. If that sort of hack job is what the XP drivers look like under the hood, I wouldn't expect Vista drivers any time soon....

I've also seen dozens of people saying how buggy their XP drivers were when they first released them, but that was so long ago that most of those driver engineers probably don't work there anymore. Their Mac drivers have had to deal with changing OS versions more recently, and thus are probably a better indicator of things to come for Vista.

I finally sold the 1010LT when Apple dropped PCI two years ago and bought a FIREPOD. It was also problematic, but at least the drivers didn't break. I finally had my first solid recording setup when I moved to an all-MOTU studio, and I haven't looked back. Now, everything just works.

And then, there were the hardware bugs. Despite being a 3.3v card, the 1010LT was incorrectly notched as 5v-only, making it incompatible with PCI-X slots in the early PowerMac G5s. They charged a pretty good chunk of change to "upgrade it". As best I can tell, it involved using a Dremel to cut a new notch in the board. The problem is that the redundant ground they removed was apparently important for grounding the power filtering caps that powered the output path. The output signal constantly chirped with CPU/GPU noise after the upgrade.

No, I wouldn't recommend any M-Audio interface to my worst enemy after my experience. I could go on and rip on them for another page about the M-Audio FW1814, but it suffices to say that my experience with the Delta series was very, very different from yours.
 
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dgatwood said:
I owned a 1010LT. No, I didn't use it under Windows, but their Mac drivers broke nearly every time Apple released a software update (about every two months). Every little thing broke their drivers. It was the worst experience I've ever had with any device driver. Ever. I could probably rant for hours about all the things they did wrong in developing the driver... like using a startup item because they didn't want to bother doing proper driver matching/enclosure for 10.2 support. Instead of doing something that would take fifteen minutes, they did a ten minute hack job. If that sort of hack job is what the XP drivers look like under the hood, I wouldn't expect Vista drivers any time soon....

I've also seen dozens of people saying how buggy their XP drivers were when they first released them, but that was so long ago that most of those driver engineers probably don't work there anymore. Their Mac drivers have had to deal with changing OS versions more recently, and thus are probably a better indicator of things to come for Vista.

I finally sold the 1010LT when Apple dropped PCI two years ago and bought a FIREPOD. It was also problematic, but at least the drivers didn't break. I finally had my first solid recording setup when I moved to an all-MOTU studio, and I haven't looked back. Now, everything just works.

And then, there were the hardware bugs. Despite being a 3.3v card, the 1010LT was incorrectly notched as 5v-only, making it incompatible with PCI-X slots in the early PowerMac G5s. They charged a pretty good chunk of change to "upgrade it". As best I can tell, it involved using a Dremel to cut a new notch in the board. The problem is that the redundant ground they removed was apparently important for grounding the power filtering caps that powered the output path. The output signal constantly chirped with CPU/GPU noise after the upgrade.

No, I wouldn't recommend any M-Audio interface to my worst enemy after my experience. I could go on and rip on them for another page about the M-Audio FW1814, but it suffices to say that my experience with the Delta series was very, very different from yours.
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Um, oK. So your giving advice based on experience which has ABSOLUTLY NOTHING to do with his question, on a hardware platform he is NOT running on a operating system he has NO interest in. Nice.
 
dgatwood said:
And then, there were the hardware bugs. Despite being a 3.3v card, the 1010LT was incorrectly notched as 5v-only, making it incompatible with PCI-X slots in the early PowerMac G5s. They charged a pretty good chunk of change to "upgrade it". As best I can tell, it involved using a Dremel to cut a new notch in the board. The problem is that the redundant ground they removed was apparently important for grounding the power filtering caps that powered the output path. The output signal constantly chirped with CPU/GPU noise after the upgrade.
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i remember m-audio offering the upgrade for free.
 
Wow.. sorry to hear about your brutal experiences Dgatwood. Glad that you got it all straightened out now with your Motu hardware. Naturally if I was that inclined to spend on hardware I would go all out and get the same probably, but for the moment it just isn't that huge of a priority to me. I wanna get some tracks down first and play around with stuff more than actually make clean and sonically professional sounding music. I'm hoping I can get kinda close at least.

Hopefully my experiences will be better using this card on xp than you had with Mac. But I guess only time will tell..
 
I have had a 1010lt since I got my G5 with PCI-X. I have never had a hardware, driver, or OS upgrade issue with it. It is rock solid.
 
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