Pc to Mac

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Pc or Mac

  • Pc Laptop

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Pc Desktop

    Votes: 12 54.5%
  • Mac Laptop

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Mac Desktop

    Votes: 4 18.2%

  • Total voters
    22
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ok guys i have a Dell Studio 17 Laptop and im running protools le with a 003 interface. Lately my computer has been running really slow. Should i get a new dell or mac laptop or desktop? What do you guys think?
 
You say "Lately It's been running slow" So I'm assuming it was fine before. Why not just reformat it and reinstall everything to get it back to factory condition?

If you don't want to do that I'd go the PC (just 'cause I'm a PC guy) desktop route. Way cheaper to add big fast drives. If your just using it for recording I think I'd go for a stripped down pc instead of getting a dell with a bunch of useless stuff you don't need. If you've got the extra cash maybe spring for a solid state hard drive.
 
Clean up your PC. Too many people buy new computers because they're running slower than before, even though they're doing the same thing they always have, all because they weren't maintaining it properly. It's also the same reason a lot of people switch to mac.

I'll echo Tetrafish here and say that you'd probably be best off reinstalling windows. That's bound to fix the problem unless it's because you're suddenly doing stuff that's more intensive. Or you could needlessly spend a load of money. Your call. :p

I also agree with everything else tetrafish says. If you do want to get something new, and PC is what you're used to, go for PC. Mac could be a whole new workflow to get up to speed on unless you plan to install windows on it, in which case, get a PC. Maybe consider building your own?
 
I running a Windows Vista laptop and a 1year old macbook for Pro Tools Le. Must say my windows laptop is so unstabile and, tried other Windows versions of Pro Tools, on more powerful computers. I vote for mac if you got for Pro Tools. My Macbook is fast and stabile. Had one issue, h/w buffersize. Mac and Pro Tools are made for eachother, after my opinion. Otherwise the Macs have simpler system, and could be used for several years without big problems. (Windows could that as well.. But have almost only bad experience with Windows, and only a couple very small problems with the mac). My opinion. A macbook is at the same price as a Dell laptop anyways? But you should consider the size of screen and if you are using your computer for other things.

Perhaps just bable from me. But think of what you use your pc for, what price you want to pay, how big screen and what OS you like best:D
 
My computer was running fine before i installed Melodyne Studio it seems thats the reason its slow.
 
I running a Windows Vista laptop and a 1year old macbook for Pro Tools Le. Must say my windows laptop is so unstabile and, tried other Windows versions of Pro Tools, on more powerful computers. I vote for mac if you got for Pro Tools. My Macbook is fast and stabile. Had one issue, h/w buffersize. Mac and Pro Tools are made for eachother, after my opinion. Otherwise the Macs have simpler system, and could be used for several years without big problems. (Windows could that as well.. But have almost only bad experience with Windows, and only a couple very small problems with the mac). My opinion. A macbook is at the same price as a Dell laptop anyways? But you should consider the size of screen and if you are using your computer for other things.

Perhaps just bable from me. But think of what you use your pc for, what price you want to pay, how big screen and what OS you like best:D

I assume you have installed Vista Service packs 1 & 2?

Everyone agrees that Vista was a buggy dog when it was released. But after installing the service packs it works quite nicely, at least it has for me.
 
I think Vista is going the way of Windows ME (if anyone remembers what an atrocious piece of shit that was). My XP installations (3 computers at home, all connected to the net 24/7 including my studio computer) have been VERY reliable- in fact, I can't tell you the last time I saw a bluescreen. I've had maybe 2 virus' (thanks to the wifee) between all three machines in the last 4 years, and all were relatively easy to remove and cleanup. I haven't had to do a reformat/reinstall on any of them. I have high hopes for Win7. I'll probably build a new machine sometime between now and xmas. :)
 
IMO you don't need a Mac to get a computer that runs more smoothly, unless a) You really like the Mac or b) You are setting up a professional standard studio.

If a) then I don't think that at the lower end of the price range, it will be as powerful as a PC built to personal specs.

If b) then I think you're looking at a whole new ball-game where you won't use the computer for anything other than audio and it will cost a great deal more than a PC with acceptable audio capabilities, but then, you probably won't care so much about what it costs, if you're buying for a pro investment.

Compared with the PC, a Mac will seem like a designer toy (except it's not, it's actually a very powerful tool) with it's ' jazzy, bubbly, user-friendly interface. But don't be fooled - they do slow down and they do fuck up and at least with a PC, you're more in control regarding how you set up the drives and maintain them. There are many more options for how the architecture can be set up, such as adding more hard drives at relatively low cost and configuring the whole system to keep system areas clean, etc.

I think Pro Tools is very well suited to the Mac and I've heard of less problems with this combination than I have with Pro Tools on the Windows platform but then, a PC does need more looking after and attending to, to get the best performance out of it.

It all depends on what you're most comfortable with. If you like to tinker, the Mac will be limiting. If you want hassle-free performance but more of a 'ride along with Mac' experience, then you'll be happier with the Mac.

Both perfectly great technologies, with different approaches. Both enjoyed by professionals and home enthusiasts, in equal measure.

Dell, I used to really like but I've heard quite a few bad things about them lately. From what I've heard, their customer service isn't quite what they'd like you to believe it is and in my estimation, the path to true PC/Windows performance is to build your own, with carefully hand selected parts.

Sounds like a pain but actually it's not an option the Mac offers (actually I think they do self-build kits, but it was just a rumour I read somewhere) but on the upside, it will work straight out of the box. You're basically paying extra for someone else (namely Macintosh) to select parts and tell you what's good for you - and for the most part, it is good.

On a tight budget I personally would avoid Dell because of the way they sell you what seems like a great package but often there is some form of in-built upgrade restriction, when it comes to sound cards, either by form factor or by having no extra slots on the board. This kind of defeats the open architecture philosophy of the PC. Unless you go for one of the more expensive DELL models which are totally open to expansion (a true PC IMHO!) but have sufficient specs to make you very happy anyway. They just cost more because (a little like the Mac) you're paying for the brand name and the customer service (except I have ny doubts it's actually as good as the Macintosh customer service) so it kinda begs you to ask: why bother?

If I were in a hurry and money was no object, I'd probably just buy a DELL because they do ooze quality (as PCs go) for the most part - or, as some will say - they used to. My only experience of DELL is that they are solid and robust and the parts should outlast cheaper far-east mass produced stuff... but that was a long time ago. You'll need to read some current user reviews as I can't say very much more than that. I wish I could help more, but that's about as much as I know.

Oh, and on the question of laptop or desktop? Well, only you can decide how much portability means to you - but, as a general rule, pound for pound/dollar for dollar, you'll get better performance for your money with a desktop because the bigger form factor carries much more powerful, yet cheaper parts. You can get extremely powerful laptops, of course, but they come at a hefty price for the minaturization. The real servicable workhorse really ought to be under the desk. My laptop is a luxury, not an necessity, but again, that depends on the user.

Best of luck

Dr. V
 
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there is no realy the best answer for this but in my opinion, if your used to a pc then buy a pc. Mac may take you time to get used to.
 
i think the first two answers nailed it.

i always hear people saying their computer's not as fast as it used to be, and asking what new computer they should buy.

bottom line is, unless you're challenging the computer more (using more vsts/plugins/greater number of tracks) then nothing's changed.

just get it cleaned up, or better yet, reinstall windows.



dunno if it applies to you, but big advice on the forums is to keep DAW separate from internet.


if you're dead set on an upgrade though, a mac or pc debate is not something that you'll solve on a forum.

My advice is to try them both out :)
 
I have both a dell desktop and laptop, they are both xps so relativly high in the ranges at the time. I had trouble with my laptobs motherboard, I left it on my bed and it overheated. But they came out and fixed it the morning after I called, Maybe its different for you guys in america though. as for my desktop I will have to see weather or not it stands the test of time.

I have to use macs at university, and I personally dont like them, There just seems to be alot of restrictions to what you can and can't do. doing colaborations with some guys on my course we have spent most of the time of a session working out why pro tools wouldn't open a project that was done on pro tools on a pc. and dispite what alot of people say I have had more trouble with a mac than I have had with PC's. As well as this people who I know just seem to wave their mac book pro around so everyone can see as if to say "wow look at me and my cool mac" But all said and done mac's are the industry standard, If I want to work in the industry I will most likly have to switch.
 
I have to use macs at university, and I personally dont like them, There just seems to be alot of restrictions to what you can and can't do. doing colaborations with some guys on my course we have spent most of the time of a session working out why pro tools wouldn't open a project that was done on pro tools on a pc. and dispite what alot of people say I have had more trouble with a mac than I have had with PC's. As well as this people who I know just seem to wave their mac book pro around so everyone can see as if to say "wow look at me and my cool mac" But all said and done mac's are the industry standard, If I want to work in the industry I will most likly have to switch.

Really?? i wonder what the problem was...i've always found that protools sessions transfer perfectly.

the only time i ever had problems was transfering from 7.x to 6.x, but even then you just have to make sure you save the 7.x session as being 6.x compatible...


i have to agree though, i hated everything about mac, purely because it was 'cool'. all this ooh look at me with my MBP bullsh1t......

but now i'm one of those guys,lol....


i'm still shocked that so much debate goes into this, and by how defensive people (i don't mean you) get about it.....

i still believe that the computer is the least important thing in the audio environment.

i mean, in the 60s or whatever, they used the same mics as us, the same preamps as us, the same amps, guitars etc etc......but no computer...

what does that tell you about the mac/pc debate.
 
It doesn't matter which one you choose. Both will do the same thing.

If you're not going to be doing live recording or moving around, I would recommend a desktop because it's cheaper and easier to upgrade. If you are just slightly DIY, I would recommend building a PC desktop. I built mine about 3 years ago and it's been great. It's crashed maybe twice in those 3 years. I run XP Pro, Core2Duo 2.33, 4 gb RAM. It stays connected to the internet 24/7. I've never maxed it out with any of my projects.



However, if you want to spend more money on a lesser computer then buy a Mac. :D
 
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