patchbays???

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wondering if anybody knew where i could by cheap tt bantam patch bay cables. i know its an epensive type of cable and allready have around 15 but the ones im buying is like 90 bucks for 8 foot long cables . so does anyone oknow of a cheaper place to buy.thanks
 
have you ever used tt cables? I hate it when I freelance and the studio has tt patchbays. Those tiny little cables and tiny labeling drive me nuts. Come on my good man and take up some space! Get some bigt fat 1/4"ers. Big letters and the sweet satisfying "thunk" of plugging in a 1/4" jack. hell yeah dawg.
 
i love them

i have four pjoject patch pp- 96 1 tt patchbays. and i love them i use to have 1/4 but the sound quality sucked. so i switched to tt and its fixed the problem tt is such a better quality. every studio ive just about ever been to in nashville use tt so i see y they are so much more expensive than those low end 1/4 but thats just my oppinion.
 
thats what ive allways been told by many respected enginners and studios in nashville ...have u ever used tt?
 
logan said:
i have four pjoject patch pp- 96 1 tt patchbays. and i love them i use to have 1/4 but the sound quality sucked. so i switched to tt and its fixed the problem tt is such a better quality. every studio ive just about ever been to in nashville use tt so i see y they are so much more expensive than those low end 1/4 but thats just my oppinion.
Nonsense.... if the connection points are of good quality, then there's no difference at all except for size and space...........
 
TRS patching isn't a Pro option at all. Too much space needed.

Card based 1/4" patchbays are crap, and fail all the time they are very poorly made and don't hold up at all. Also the signal travels through cheaply made printed circuits which can alter/degrade the audio quality.

But when it comes to a Military, TT, or fully soldered 1/4" bay there is no quality difference, they all use the same parts just in different configs.
 
yea thst what the guys at the studios were tellin me so i got the patchbays that most of them recomended
 
1/4" is not pro because it takes up to much space? You can fill racks and walls with tons of gear but can't use any space for patchbays? Honestly where do we find these people . . .
 
what i think her was saying is the kind of patchbays u guys were talking about is that since major studios have sooooooo much gear and so many inputs outputs effects it would take up way to much space compared to another type of patch bay am i right on this or way wrong?
 
Logan: You are correct about the space issue. you would need 2 x the amount of bays if you went with 1/4" compared to TT.
 
Space is an absolutely valid consideration, but don't put out nonsense about there being a difference in sound quality. As I said, if the connections are solid and high-quality cable is used, there is NO difference in sound quality.

As to the reliability of the cards in 1/4" bays -- I've used RE'AN and Neutrik bays for years without a single failure...... and they're still going strong.....
 
TT/Bantam uses less space, and also designed for telephone systems, where you pull and plug cables all day long. They came into use because they last forever. I'd imagine todays hi-end 1/4" patchbays last forever too, though...

There is also "longframe" plugs that are 1/4", but made for telephone systems. The TT is a smaller version of these.

So, TT/Bantam are indeed a valid option, especially for pro studios. Of couse, that means you pay pro-prices...
 
The myth that TT/bantam bays are better is perpetuated by the fact that no one makes cheap, crappy TT/bantam patch bays. The same cannot be said about 1/4 inch. If you buy the nice 1/4 patchbays (the really expensive ones with the soldered connections) there will be no difference in performance. I use the crappy ones and have only had a few problems in 12 years. My patchbays also face up so they collect more dust that if they were mounted vertically.
 
i prefer 1/4 cause i'm so used to it,
but i did work with bantam and in my opinion its much more solid,
i'm not talking about sound quality,but all the bantams i touched still work,
allmost EVERY 1/4 patch i worked with has some kind of 'error'...
or bad connection on a channel or two....

but i do work with old equipment most of the time :rolleyes:
 
I was pretty shocked when I looked at the price of mini-bantams.
 
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