overdubbing and monitoring

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Yeah, I'm baffled again.

I want to overdub and listen to both the already recorded tracks and the track I'm recording. How do you do that?

I record straight to disk without going through the mixer. Is it possible to monitor what I'm overdubbing that way?
 
what soundcard are you using?

for a delta soundcard, connect your headphone amp to the monitor mixer (outs 1-2) You should hear everything thats playing in the system as well as everything thats going in.
 
Damn, that sounds so simple...

No, I'm using a Gadgetlabs 824. It's got 8 ins/outs. Mixer's an Alesis Studio 12-R - eight channels plus.

Isn't there a standard procedure for all mixers?
 
Hey Hey DOBRO:

I wish I could give you an exact answer but I'm not familiar with the gear you're using.

But, on the MD8, I overdub most of the time and after I do a track, it must be switched into the CUE mode to hear it without messing up the data.

I'm now learning my way around the Yam 2816 and overdubbing on that box seems similar; however, I'm still studying the "manual."

Whatever gear you're using, you should be able to put recorded tracks in "some type of playback mode...." while you add another track.

Why? Because when you finish all of your tracks, you have to play them all back and set the faders, eq, reverb, etc., before you mix to something.

Well, man, someone will give you a better answer I'm sure.

Enjoy Turkey time.

Green Hornet
 
Still baffled.

Each of my mixer channels has a line in and an insert. If I put the preamped mic signal into the mixer line in, and use the first click insert as an out to my soundcard, I can hear what I'm recording as I record it through the headphones. (I've got a full duplex card - no problem - it works.)

Now, I'll describe the thing that doesn't work, and which I don't understand. If I put the preamped mic signal straight into the soundcard, bypassing the mixer completely, and then run the soundcard out to mixer line in, I *don't* hear it through the phones. I've even tried preamping this signal from the soundcard before it goes to the mixer line in. Nothing.

I don't get it. Why should a preamped signal from the mic going to the mixer line in be audible through the phones, but a preamped signal from the soundcard going to the mixer line in *isn't* audible? Grrrrrr.
 
Okay, figured it out I think. There's nothing wrong with the way I'm trying to use the mixer - the problem's with a setting in either the soundcard or the software. Which is it, I wonder? Any guesses?
 
It turned out to be a setting in the soundcard.

Hey, dobro, ever get the feeling you're just talking to yourself?

No - why do you ask?

Oh, just wondered...
 
I have a Wave 8/24 too. I assume you already figured this out 'cause of your last post, but you have to check the input monitor button for each channel you want to monitor in the control panel. The thing that blows about the control panel is that you can't route the input monitor to a specific output. Channel 1 input can only be monitored through channel 1 output, etc. If you are like me, I monitor my mixes with a stereo pair (output channels 1/2) and if I want to monitor whats plugged into input 1 via the control panel input monitor, it only comes through the left side. If I wanted to monitor channel 3 via the input monitor, I'd have to physically reroute my setup. So, if you want to monitor multiple inputs (more than 2), you have to a) monitor from your mixer (assuming that you run everything through it and you don't have outboard gear after the board, this is OK) or b) get another 8 channel mixer to submix the 8/24's outputs to a stereo pair. I use choice a) and have been fairly successful. Except when I use an outboard pre I have to make sure it goes through channel 1 or 2 so I can actually hear what it sounds like without rewiring or recording it and listening to the playback.

To sum this up, it would have been really nice if Gadget Labs made a software mixer that would allow you to route any input(s) to any output(s) before they went belly up.
 
Yeah, I agree. I haven't had time to check this out, and you probably know about it already, but here's the link for the Gadgetlabs support group, online software orphans:

http://www.glug.homestead.com/
 
Yeah, but I can't manage to get into it. Every time I try to send the 'subscribe' email, it refuses to be sent. Is there a trick to it?
 
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