Outboard effects on pre-recorded track?

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I have recently downloaded SONAR trial and I have the Audigy Platinum ex. I would like to use my composer pro on my recorded tracks, but how do I do it? Should I connect line out to the composer and then composer to line in and record a new track? Please help. Thanks.
 
Im guessing the composer pro is a proccesor. I dont see a problem with your suggestion. Give it a shot.
 
But this means that I must record a new track with the effect, and then I delete the old track, right?? I guess it's not possible just to add the effect to the original.

The Composer Pro is a compressor. But it doesn't matter, it's the technique that I'm unsure of.
 
Even if it were possible to just add the effect to the old track, you probably wouldn't want to do it. It will be nice to have the unmodified track around in case you later decide you want a different effect. I'd suggest just muting the original track unstead of deleting it.
 
But when I'm adding the effect I can not only hear the "new - effect sound" but I'm also hearing the "old - original sound", correct? This is a problem when am tweaking the effect, I hear two versions of the sound. What do I do??

Thanks for the replys so far. :)
 
Make the recorded effect sound completely "wet". Then you can still mix in the amount of effect you want. This works well for reverb and delays.
 
So you need a way to mute the track and STILL have it sent through your soundcard's output? ...

... interesting problem. Maybe a little mixer would solve the problem: insert the mixer between the Composer output and the soundcard input. This will allow you to monitor that signal directly from the headphone out on the mixer.

I'd be surprised though if there were no software solution for such a task. Don't even know how to do that in Cubase either (my program).
 
input,output

here is what i do for a final mix.
I use a delta 1010, it not only has 8 analog in and out but, it has s/pdif in and out. I use the routing (mixing) software that came from m audio and moniter 1 and 2 analog out for my moniters.
Itake my analog out 1 and 2 and connect them to l and r inputs of a lexicon reverb.
NOTE: I have already done a bad thing because i have now done a didgital to analog convertion and degraded my sound. But it still works prety good for demos.
anyway, then i use the s/pdif out on the lexicon connecting it to my sound card with a rca cable.
In your case you would have to come from the analog out on your computor, in to your compressor, and out of your compressor analog into your computer.
the last time i tryed this i got alot of feed back so be carfull and try it at low volums to start . good luck
PS check out my last mix. http://gbstudio.net/
 
I think BootCut's got the connections figured out ... I'm sure he'll voice his problem once more but as I understand it, he wants adjust the compressor settings WHILE listening to the the track. But while he runs the track and records the incoming compressed signal on a new track, hew doesn't want to hear the original track. So, he needs a way to have the original track sent through the line-outs but he only wants hear the line-ins ... is that it?

Only solution I can think of is the one with the mixer ...
 
with the routing(mixing) software that i got with my delta 1010 from M audio
i can turn inputs down and not hear them
but still record them and vise versa.
I also had some simlare routing (mixing)
software when i had a motu2408 and could achieve the same thing.
 
Hello again. Thanks for helping out.

You got it mcr, that is exactly what I want.
I thougt this question whould have an easy answer, but it seems like I'm the only one having this problem.
How do you guys use your outboard gear?

The mixer solution should work (haven't tried it). But then the signal has to go thru another unit --> weaker signal. My soundcard also has S/PIDF connectors if this helps.

Maybe there is a program for this I haven't checked it. But I thought this was a common recording technique, and I thought it would be easy solved. Guess not.
Thanks anyway.
 
Hey Boot,
I thought about it once more. My soundblaster line-in is broken so I couldn't play around with it to find a solution. However, I'm pretty sure there won't be any software solution. You would have to be able feed the line-out and headphone-out be with different signals (i.e. orig. signal -> line-out and line-in signal routed to the headphone-out). I think the Audigy doesn't allow such a routing.

Routing flexibility is one of the things your money goes into when getting a prosumer audiocard. But I don't think you'd lose a lot of fidelity when inserting a little mixer (say MX-602). You wouldn't be applying any amplification so the sound quality loss would be kept at a minimum.
 
If I use a mixer, then I have to monitor trough the headphones, wich is really bad when I'm applying effects like reverb and modulation effects. But I could connect my speakers to the mixer.

I haven't checked any routing stuff, don't no if it's possible with Audigy.
 
mixer

hi, if you want to add effect as you are, you should always moniter through your mixer now, as the sound coming from the mixer will sound different than the sound coming streight from your sound card through the same set of speakers.
 
The mixer wont help either. You need a soundcard with multiple I/0. Sonar can route the signal anyway you need to but if your card can't handle it your screwed.

Within Sonar can you choose the REAR outs on the audigy as seperate outputs? That will be your only shot.
 
DOH!

Here's what you do-

Pan your entire mix right and this will be your monitor feed.

Pan the track you want to compress left and run that to the compressor. Run the output of the compressor back to the SB IN.

Record the new track and pan it to the right so it will be added to your monitor mix.

The only downside is you will have to monitor in mono but that's not a big deal.
 
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