Out of time tracks?

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I'm currently using Kristal and last night put down an acoustic guitar track with the intention of at least getting keys, bass and vocals done. This was until i encountered a problem:

I recorded another guitar track alongside the acoustic and upon listening back, the new track was out of sync with the recorded one. I was listening (w/headphones) to the original track whilst recording and was perfectly in time, yet the new track was at least two seconds behind.

Has anybody encountered a similar problem before? Solutions?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

Jamie
 
yep...sounds like latency to me...try using asio4all ... I use it with reaper and it works great...
 
Thanks. Latency? What does this mean precisely? And how will ASIO4ALL help me?

Latency is really just a 'delay'. In some cases it's caused by processing, the distance a signal has to travel or, well, lots of things :) Latency is usually measured in milliseconds in an audio setup.

Most audio workstations tend to use 'ASIO' drivers. It's just a standard of driver for sound hardware that amongst other things gives a lower latency when recording, playing back or doing duplex operations. It has some limitations too.

If you don't have ASIO drivers and you're using Windows, they're probably WDM drivers and not strictly suitable for low-latency applications like recording multiple tracks or playing back which recording.

From what I can gather, this software looks like it works like an ASIO 'wrapper' for your existing drivers allowing you to use the ASIO interface without having to change your drivers.

If you have native ASIO drivers for your soundcard, then use them instead. You might already have them installed and not realise. Check the audio setup in your sequencing software to check. It might also help if you can tell us what soundcard you're using. If you don't know, then it's unlikely you have ASIO drivers installed :)

Hope this (1) helps and (2) is correct info :)
 
Thanks, that's really helpful. The concept is still a little confusing to me as i'm not excellent with computers. But, do i simply download ASIO4ALL and it'll be loaded on to my drivers? Or do i need to manually run it when recording with KRISTAL?

Sorry. :o
 
But, do i simply download ASIO4ALL and it'll be loaded on to my drivers? Or do i need to manually run it when recording with KRISTAL?

I've got be honest-- I'm not sure. I'd imagine it runs all the time so you have to configure your multitrack software to find it. Perhaps install it, get it running and see if you get anything new in the audio settings in your application.

Sorry I can't help more :)
 
yep...sounds like latency to me...try using asio4all ... I use it with reaper and it works great...

No, that's not latency. Latency means that when you record something, you hear yourself in the headphones slightly delayed. You should be able to play back the sound output into an input and record onto a new track a million times and never see any appreciable track drift because your audio app should be compensating for that latency automatically during the recording process. It's remarkably basic, amounting to asking the driver how much latency its buffer is adding during playback, then subtracting that value from the time stamp the driver returns on the return path. That's all there is to it. Really basic stuff.

What you're hearing is a software bug, pure and simple. The software screwed up its time stamps during the recording process, resulting in the tracks not lining up. It wouldn't be surprising if you found a glitch halfway through the track followed by everything being in sync; these issues are often caused by a dropout during recording.
 
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