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Ok, this is about as much as I can rock these days. I understand the drums and the lead are not top notch. If anyone wants to contribute, I would be more than willing to work with them.



Production comments aside (I do welcome them) want to see if I can dialing in mixing.

Thanks for listening.
 
I'd pump those drums way up. The kick/snare are pretty weak and don't really kick you in yer nuts as they should. Perhaps start there and work up from that point. ;)
 
Cool, I won't argue with that.

Note to the mix, kick people in the nuts with kick and snare, I can do that. :thumbs up:
 
Hey dm, what's that keyboard line? Sounds really unusual.

The timing's a bit crazy on the drums, particularly around the fills and transitions - given what you said, maybe they're just placeholders? I think you've got plenty of interesting ideas going on, but the mix is all a bit small and distant. I think maybe that you've got an overload of certain frequencies which is coming in at the expense of others that would fill out the song. It all sounds very mid-rangey to me in parts like the vocals and that analogue type synth which become a little fatiguing over the course of the song. If you got that under control, I think you'd have more space to fill out the mix better.

Hope this helps.
 
Thanks Rob. I think what you might be hearing if it is repetitive is a glitch I used (from what is called a bufferstutter) and I may have over used it. If you are talking about the sound that is used at the start, then drums, then that is definitely what it is. I will revisit and try again.

Thanks for the listen and the feedback.
 
Ah, yes that's it. I like it - it's an unusual touch. I agree that it could perhaps be pared back a little though. Thanks for clearing that up dm.
 
Some good ideas and an interesting song. You do need to rebuild the rhythm section. The timing things near the beginning makes everything else seems a little out.
 
Made a few changes, pulled back the effect, pushed up the drums and tried to spread it out a little and balance the frequencies. Same link.

Thanks for everyone's comments so far.
 
The song is good. The timing is out of whack. I think that is due mostly to the drums. The bass guitar has a really good line and the performance is good, but the tone of it is too midrangy. Good tone on the lead guitar.
Good tune
 
jimistone said:
The song is good. The timing is out of whack. I think that is due mostly to the drums. The bass guitar has a really good line and the performance is good, but the tone of it is too midrangy. Good tone on the lead guitar.
Good tune
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Damn, I did dial up the midrange on the bass on the last go around! I thought it was giving it a little more upper end. I will wait to hear others, but will dial that mid back on the next mix. Thanks.
 
I first heard this a couple of days ago and there were major timing errors with the drums. looks like you got those straightened out.

Though this isn't something I usually listen to, I really like the intro and the synth patch/sample you use throughout. It's pretty cool, whatever it's doing.

Some suggestions:

1) don't double the vox. I think a song like this benefits from a single lead vocal track. There are parts where the two vox tracks are out of tune with each other. It doesn't work.

2) turn down the room mic on your ezdrummer mix. It has a distinctive signature and usually the room mic doesn't work where they set the default. I use the room mic to send to a reverb plug. It's the only reverb on my drums for most of my songs. I use the room mic fader to blend the reverb back in with the mix.

3) Turn the drums, as a whole, up in the mix. Drums, bass, lead vox are the loudest tracks in a rock mix. You got the vox and bass there, just need to balance out with the drums. Or, you might have the drums where they need to be but other tracks are pushing the drums further back in the mix. Drums, bass, vox, then everything else in supporting roles.

3) I don't think some of the spastic ezd fills work with this song. Take some time to go through the midi data and edit the drum tracks.

4) listen to your song at quiet levels. You'll hear the mix in ways you don't hear at loud levels.

I like the solo guitar section. Good strong groove and the guitar tone is nice and clean and works with this tune. Good choice.

yeah man!! Thnx fo sharing.
 
Thanks Chili for the comments. I actually do listen now at low levels, I think you made a comment of that sort a year or so back and have followed that advice pretty diligently.

Since the fills have been commented on by many, I will revisit. I kind of liked the spastic approach, I don't know why but it felt right, but I will definitely revisit.

Vox, actually I was trying an experiment with the Vox, I copied the main vocals and on the copy version used Melodyne at 50% correction, lowered that track to give it a type of ADT effect. Then spread that hard left and right. Looks like it didn't work out as intended. Maybe lower the correction parameters.

Had a comment on the bass having too much mid-range, would you agree with that? I was trying to give the bass more roll in the tune.

Thanks very much for the comments.
 
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