One track mind

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I have been playing classical guitar for years. Recently I have been playing acoustic guitar and writing my own solo guitar music. A sort of fusion of classical, blues, rag, and folk. Now, I think, is the time for me to start recording. I have read up on what's available, but I am probably more confused now than I was at the start.

So basically, what sort of set up should I get if I wish to start on a fairly modest budget?

I do have a PC but the fans are so noisy local airports have been complaining. I like the idea of a stand alone, dedicated digital recorder and transferring data to PC for archiving and burning to CD.

I know I need a condenser mike with phantom power (if the recorder does not supply mike power) and a boom. My real problem is with digital recorders. What I'd actually like is a high quality one track! Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, such a thing does not exist. So what's the best I can do? Maybe there's a four track where the money goes on recording quality rather than built in drum machines and the like?

Thanks for listening.
 
Consider a 4-track cassette

I am sure someone else can give you ideas on the digital route...but as a person who is slowly moving into digital recording, and finding it quite unpleasant at this point, I want to promote the old 4-track cassette.

I assume from your post that you have just started thinking about recording. If you are concerned about the complexity of learning to use equipment and you are not overly concerned at this time with having cutting edge clearity I recommend recording to cassette tape.

I bought a Yamaha MT-50 about 8 years ago for over $400. I still use it. It has double tape speed (something like 3 inches per second vs 1.5 inches per second on a regular cassette recorder) for greater clearity, a decent noise reduction feature, useful hi/low EQ knobs and knobs and a hook-up where you can plug in an effects box to add some reverb, etc...I'm sure they don't make them now but I would say a similar featured new 4-track today would be around $250 (probably a $150 or so on ebay). Add a basic effects unit (I use an ART FX-1 that I bought from ebay for about $70) and a $60 Shure 58-QTR Dynamic Microphone...Hook the 4-track into the line-ins of a decent stereo (for monitoring and "feel"...you could just use headphone if you had to) and you would be ready to go...My users manual is only 32 pages long with large, spread-out print, and quite a few graphics...if you have used a regular cassette recorder before you already are half-way to knowing how to use a 4-Track and a little trial and error often teaches you the rest (but take an hour or two with the manual to get the info on setting-levels etc.) ...you do have to mix down to a regular speed cassette player or you can plug into a computer (I started doing this a year ago using Cakewalk Pyro, which is suprisingly easy and cost less than $40) so that you can listen to your songs in a conventional format. I find the sound very satifying (especially after I learnd to set the EQ by ear instead of by sight...I used to put too much bass on everything)...The main reason I am moving to digital is to get more tracks. you might find too that there may be times you would like to experiment and put something on the extra 3 tracks (or use two tracks and two microphones for stereo...though I don't don't know how effective or neccesary that would be with a single instrument...but stereo is always nice ...I'm sure it would add something if you miced the guitar at different areas)

Here is another thought...If you can get through your solo guitar songs in one take you could just get a good cassette tape recorder (regular speed, stereo, like a $100 TEAC). You could hook up a couple of $50 microphones (for stereo if you wish) to an inexpensive mixer (under a $100), then hook the mixer into the TEAC and record your final take straight to tape (which would contribute to a clean sound)...again, you could then go from the TEAC to computer...

I just thought of this...you could do the above but instead of using a TEAC cassette recorder you could go from microphone(s) to mixer to computer (using a program like Pyro 2004, which is designed to take analoge media like cassettes and old records to digital)...

The Advantaqe of the above is that a technophobe like me can at least understand what is going on in a analog-leaning enviroment. I now hope someone else will go more into the digital options for you...if you look through music catalogues and ask around you might find a stand-alone digital recorder that just records in mono (one track, or more accurately on channel) or stereo (I guess that would technically be two tracks or channels at once)...this would (probably) require you to do the whole song in one take (although I might be wrong about that...you can do some suprising edits with digital)
 
The Fostex VF160CDR can be had for $699. at Musicians Friend. This is a phenomenal buy, and it's a great machine. It will take you from recording to a mastered and burned CD. Easy to learn, very stable, very quiet, both mechanically (no fan) and electronically. I realize it's overkill, track wise, but getting a one track machine could be like getting a car with manual steering -- it may cost you more rather than less.

You could get a MiniDisc machine, or perhaps an old 2-track DAT. There's also a Fostex Field Recorder (Not cheap). But you may find having more tracks opens up some new possibilities.
 
I like the idea of the Fostex. The price however, opens up another can of worms. I live in the UK and what claims to be a huge saving at soundslive.co.uk on the non-CD version is 589 pounds (1,000 dollars).

Has anybody imported their gear from the USA to the UK? Are power supplies or other compatibility issues a problem? I happen to be going to Florida on holiday in June, I wonder what the import duty would be?
 
I'd avoid getting one without the CD burner onboard. Why not call Fostex UK to see about voltage/cycles issues? In the US, Fostex is releasing a new VF160EX (the same as the one it replaces except for the CDR is always included and there is no SCSI port -- also it has a silver color). This is why the remaining VF160's are going for only US$699.00. Maybe in the UK the marketing particulars are different, so the price drops may not come into play.

Also, make sure you're protected in the UK warranty wise, if you buy from the US.
 
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