Ok - Y My Boyz Tellin Me To Do A Solo Project?

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Its Mad Ill How Dudez Up In Here Said That Shit, Then My Boyz Tellin Me The Same Thing . ..

But Im Like This . . . - Till I Get A Fullcircly Operation - Whats The Point?

Still Need:
Street Team
Dj (either In My Pocket Or At Least On Call)
Event Planner
And Lets Not 4get: $$$$$$$$ To Pay Off The Promoz Needed To Get Some Kinda Buzz Out There . .. Otherwise . . . Projects Get Recorded For The "love" And "hobby" Of It .. . I've Done Solo Projects Before Adn Passed Em Out, Put Em In Stores, Did A Few Shows . . It Aint Like . . . Radio Station Was Gon Come Up Wit Open Arms . . .

Am I Missin The Point?
Im Just Like . . . If U Got A Project In The Bag - Push It - Do A Solo Later, Once U Git Somethin Crackin . . . I See Dudes Now Thats Got Much More Buzz Than Me, But They Solo Projects Dont "appear" To Me To Be . . . Well It Aint Payin The Bills - So . . .
 
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I see what you mean about it being harder to push a project by yourself with lack of funds. If you have a completed cd already then definitely try to push it if the other members of your group are putting in as much effort as you are.

But if lack of acknowledgment from the public is your problem, maybe you haven't hit your stride as an artist yet. Would you say that the music you are making now is better than what you were making last year? A lot of people just keep getting better with experience. If you keep making songs, you might end up with something better an better, which I would think would be easier to push. You could spend a year trying to push a mild album, but if you spent that year getting better, recording, and making it into a fire album, things might get easier even if you're on your own.

Of course I have never tried to sell albums so I don't really know what I'm talking about. I just know that a lot of famous artists record like 100 songs before narrowing it down to the album cuts. I don't know how much time you have every day to dedicate to this, and that could be a limiting factor. But probably just do what you think is right. If right now you feel you should dedicate more time to pushing your completed projects, then go for it. If you aren't having any luck, take the anger back to the studio, write even better stuff, and start all over again.

and oh yea who makes the beats that you have currently been using? Is it your friends, internet collabors, or have you been paying money for them?
 
I agree with everyone. You got skills and I think you should be doin' your own thing.

Have you tried looking for an agent? Sure they'll want a piece of your pie, but if you get in with a good agent, it can do alot for your career. Even a mediocre one with good contacts can help. They can take care of alot of the adminstrative tasks, and get you more gigs. That way you can worry about your music.

Just send your demo or CD out to a few agents in your area and see what their responses are. It doesn't hurt and won't cost much at all. I'm kinda in the same boat and the fact of the matter is, you gotta hustle hard regardless of the situation you find yourself in.

Another thing is save up money and pay for as much as you can (that's if you believe that you can make decent cheddar off your music). First step is always believing in yourself.

The grind is hard, but would we want it to be any different?

Peace out homie and good luck with the open mic.
 
WHAT I Keep tellin mypeeplez is that DEDICATION and hardwork have more to do with "getting somewhere" than recordign the "perfect song" . . . everytime we get together to discuss things, its always a big thing about "when" and "what" to record next . . .

and i always say - its not about what you have recorded, its what you are doing with what you have recorded . ..

who's gonna go to the open mics and peform - no matter what time and what night they fall on?

who's gonna go holla at the hi school sporting events and pass out/sell cds or flyers?

who's gonna hit the mall and pass out/sell cds/flyers?

who's gonna network with the club/party djs and get them to play the song or putthe song on their next mixtape or whatever . . .

im like - until u do these things - you're recording "new shit" is . . . a HOBBY no more no less . . .
 
Agreed. I think that you should do a solo project, you can hold your own and can blend in with others (vocal styles and beats)...even if you're doing a group project at the same time. That way you can double market. Basically get your people involved by pushing their material, you're adding yours to it too as part of the group.

Use the best of what you have my friend.
 
i just think that such diversifying taps the budget in a more destructive way . . . although, if I could find a frikkin AGENT to work with, then I would be more open to it . . . as the Agent would be "ensuring" enough gigs to justify expenditures (theoretically that is)
 
Everything taps the budget bro. Everything costs money. As for as your question man it's all about the hustle. Maybe your boys see you shinin more than them and want to push you to go on head and get a foot in the door so you can open it for them. Fuck the budget go head and solo it it up dog, you already seen to have the support. You and ya boys get out there and get the stuff you need. They the street team, one of the ya dj, another one is ya event planner ya dig. Then get out here and grind till you make it cuzzin.

Fo real.

Will
 
Man all i can tell you is if alot of different pple are telling you the same thing about the pple you feature on you're tracks are not up to par with you're individual talent then it's time to part ways and either

A: Find some other cats who are on you're level of flow status. I do mean type of style you do. Try to find a twin someone who sounds like you or puts in the same effort as you do. They don't always have to be old neighborhood buddies or family man. Theres lots of talented cats out there floating around the internet you just gotta find the right pple to collab with. Go searching homie or you can always do B

B: Do it on you're own this is the route i chose. You don't gotta worry about dealing with cats who f**ck up the tracks. It's what you think and you say & what goes or not. You're basically cutting off the middle man. The only thing that might be hard for alot of cats making the transition in the writing dept. It will be ten times harder to build an album because you'll have to do 3 or 4 verses for each track, but believe me man once you get to like 25 original tracks of all you're own shit and the producer you work with man you will feel so proud of all the hard work you put in. It'll be a long and rough road but hard work always pays off. Don't worry about the promotion ahead of time man. Worry about creating the master-piece first. Everything will fall into it's own place as time goes by.
 
This is what I say from somebody who's in basically the exact same position as you...

RECORD, RECORD, RECORD...... and HUSTLE, HUSTLE, HUSTLE.....

I jsut thought of this while sittin hea but check what I think im a do is this...... take the songs I got already and burn CD's Im talkin buy me a bulk pack of like 100 for like 20.. get like 5 of those and burn CD's then just pass um out... thats 500 CDs right there right for 100 easy...... let them go for free.... (which a be easy for me cause I work at a gas station in the middle of the hood)...... that a get u a little buzz.... and give people you contact info wit that so they can pre-order the album when it drop.... you neva kno outta that 500 u might give one to a promoter or club owner or even better a agent...

While doin that record as much as possible toward whatever.... the only difference between a group project and a solo is like 5 good solo tracks and the album cover.... save money work on the solo and group project at the same time and when u ge tthe doe press one of um up (more then likely the solo) and pass the other out wit it for "free" for like $5 for both and there u go....

but man its all about the grind.... in that one post u was like Who goin go here.... who goin go here.... and i gotta say homie that WHO is YOU.. point blank something im learnin is nobody goin do the footwork for u man for real.......
 
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and i always say - its not about what you have recorded, its what you are doing with what you have recorded . ..
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i wouldn't say that's entirely true. Yea a big part of it comes with pushing your product, and yea a lot of famous people that are big right now have terrible songs, but there's millions of people out there recording mediocre songs that nobody's going to listen to. If you make something that's actually good then you're going to widen your audience considerably. Of course if every time you sit down and record, you come up with the same song that's no better than the last, you aren't going anywhere. But if you actually improve with every song you make, then eventually you'll be at the point where you have something that people want to hear. The day you start settling and trying to push a product that isn't worth the money is the day you start giving up. Listening to your songs you have currently, I honestly think that you could make something incredible if you tried harder, but I don't think that you and your associates are at your peak yet.
 
fyre - i like the way you put it - i have tried it before, but i will reconvene something like that in '08 . . .

pro - i feel u - im not sayin i refuse to record other stuff - cuz i do, n i wil - but i do think that the WAITIN ON TEH BREADTRUCK project is worth the $5 that im sellin it for . . .
but im takin everything folks is sayin with an open mind . . . valuable food for thought . . . its not fallin on def ears!!!
 
how long have you been trying to sell the record for?

and are you the main man trying to make the sales or are your friends involved?

$5 is a lot more reasonable than I was assuming, I thought you were trying to wall-mart the price up to the standard $12-16. Although if it was some random dude on the corner I would never give him $5 for a cd.

You said you've done shows in the past, have you done any recently? I don't think there's really any other way for random people to hear you. If you're serious about trying to sell then you really have no choice but to rock crowds. get noddy to go all rockstar on them for you
 
we got the cd back from the manufacture around . . . hell i cant even remember - but when we got it, it was "wrong" n we had to wait another month to get a better version - then that was wacked out too but anyhow - the sales have been slow but steady - just on randomization . . . the shows we had planned all fell through . . . and the main open mic club closed down!! - lol what luck . . .

its been a decent group effort - me n my partner sellin the most, and a cuz who has recently moved to NC doin some as well . . .

most other pplz dont know how to sell, they just pass em out for free and be like "what u wanme2do?"

honestly, i c a lotta artists tryin to walmart that shit up - i dotn go for it - i buy local artists with reasonable prices n i try to extend the same . . thats what killz me - a shit load of artist on the street n in the stores chargin $18+ for the cd - and them shitz sit in the store all day - . . . i figured my price would get a fw more turns - NOPE!!! it mite as well be the same price . .. we can all sit together! lol

gtryin to get back n2 shows - cuz i just got word last couple of weeks of open mics openin up again - a lot of em were wack and closed down - i mean u git up in the splace n cant hear nothin anybody sayin on the mic - even a capella . . . but let me shut my complainin up - im goin back to it 1 way or the other . ..
 
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Peace...

spin
 
Damm I Just Got Good News . . . Now Just Waitin For Verification Of The Funds!!!

My Cuz In Nc Just Told Me That He Sold 15 Of The Breadwinnaz Cds . . . Thats $100 . . . Back To The Project's Account . . . Damm Aint Nothin Like Knowin A Salesman!!!!

Hoo Rah!
(now I Justhope He Actually Send The Damm Money - :<?
 
thanks!!!! feel like finally part of the plan came thru - cuz dude sold them joints off the strength of his word and the cd cover - no show, no website presence, . . . oh yea - now im hopin to get soem feedback lol
 
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WHAT I Keep tellin mypeeplez is that DEDICATION and hardwork have more to do with "getting somewhere" than recordign the "perfect song" . . . everytime we get together to discuss things, its always a big thing about "when" and "what" to record next . . .

and i always say - its not about what you have recorded, its what you are doing with what you have recorded . ..

who's gonna go to the open mics and peform - no matter what time and what night they fall on?

who's gonna go holla at the hi school sporting events and pass out/sell cds or flyers?

who's gonna hit the mall and pass out/sell cds/flyers?

who's gonna network with the club/party djs and get them to play the song or putthe song on their next mixtape or whatever . . .

im like - until u do these things - you're recording "new shit" is . . . a HOBBY no more no less . . .
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