OK, Here's the Deal - 4 for 1

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Read this article first
http://prosoundweb.com/recording/tapeop/buildmic/buildmic_16_1.shtml

Here's the deal. I'll build you 4 of these and trade them for your Neumann tube mic. Hell, I'm not even picky about model number (wouldn't want the deal to fall thru on such details). You do have to throw in the power supply since I'm including 4 of them. I await your orders. Build a better mousetrap and .. well ... you know! :D :D

DD
 
Believe it or not I'm gonna build one of these just for fun. Maybe it'll have an unusual coloration to it. Never know when you might need something a little different. I'll run it thru my ART Tube MP with phantom off first instead of straight into my Aardvark Q10. I'd really hate for a $20 mic to blow my Q10 preamp. Will let you know how it turns out.
 
That is cool. I'm gonna try to build a couple too. This is from Tape Op so it surely isn't a crock.

I wonder if the different capacitors and resistors will have an outcme on the sound quality of the finished product. I've heard Harvey and Stephen Paul talk about swapping out circuit componants when doing ugrade mods.

Where would one go to get the best componants?

Taylor
 
As far as looking for parts sources, go to http://www.freetradezone.com/
if you know the part number or specs. It searches all the big parts houses for the part and gives you a price. It also sorts by price. You'd be surprised at the difference in prices between different distributors. I've seen the exact same IC for $6.00 at one and $25.00 at another distributor. For a home project I usually order from http://www.digikey.com I think they still have a $25 minimum order. Believe it or not I've ordered a lot of parts from Radio Shack online. They don't have a minimum and the price is reasonable. Most of what they carry is not available at your mall Radio Shack - online only. You'll get your part in about 2 days. Their website is a little cumbersome (poor search engine) but you can find what you're looking for if you look hard enough.

DD
 
Thanks Don,

Do you think there is a difference in quality from piece to piece with these capacitors and resistors?

Taylor
 
Wow, this sounds interesting!!

Does anyone have any experience with making this? If I can get the parts, maybe I'll let a friend make one:) I am a total clums with electronics..
 
BrettB said:
I am a total clums with electronics..
I am too Brett, but this seems like something so simple even us clums can do it. I can dirt dobber solder. :D

Taylor
 
One of my friends has the hang of electronics, so to be safe I am going to ask him to help me:D

Jeez, I'm really considering making this mic, who knows what dreadfull mic I'll com up with:). Well, I'll first check I'll find the parts here somewhere.
 
Keep us posted Brett. If you have any problems located any of the parts let me know. I may be able to get them for you here and send them to you.

I'm going to try and order all my parts Monday.

Taylor
 
Ok,
I'll see this friend of mine on monday, so I am gonna ask his advice first. If he agrees to cooperate, I'll be off to the elctronics shop:)
 
Here's the spec sheet on the mic capsule http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/components/pdf/em07_wm60_a_dne.pdf
Here's some more info I found on someone else experimenting with this capsule:

"A high quality measurement and recording microphone with flat frequency response can be constructed using the Panasonic omni-directional back electret microphone cartridge WM-60AY. Currently it is priced at $23.41 for 10 units(!) under Digi-Key part number P9959-ND.
When the cartridge is connected as described by Panasonic it produces fairly high distortion at moderate SPL's and is marginally suitable for serious recording and measurement purposes. The microphone itself is extremely linear, but the built in FET amplifier stage is not configured optimally.

Fortunately, is it possible to modify the external connection to the FET. This involves some delicate work of cutting a trace on the tiny pcb in back of the cartridge and soldering thin, flexible wires to the standard two hookup points, and making a different connection to the capsule housing. The pcb has a circular ring of copper on its outside, which can be exposed by shaving off a small section of the aluminum roll surround with a sharp blade. Then solder a wire from the copper ring to the hookup point that was originally the positive capsule terminal and make it the new ground wire. The terminal with the cut trace becomes the new active output. You might sacrifice some cartridges while learning the process. It is important not to overheat the cartridge when soldering the wires to it, because it destroys the electret. Also, after wires have been connected, the whole backside should be covered with Silicone II Glue to avoid low frequency roll-off due to a broken air seal which might have been caused by the modification. Heat shrink tubing can be used to attach the capsule to a wooden dowel, or the capsules can be glued into the end of a 1/4 inch ID thin metal pipe. Look at the microph1.gif page from my notebook for further details.
The output voltage from the modified WM-60AY capsule can swing 5 Vpp (!) max at 141 dB SPL using a 9 V supply, and easily overload a preamplifier with too much gain. Noise floor measures about 36 dB SPL, 80 Hz to 20 kHz, with a 1/f corner around 100 Hz. A-weighted noise is estimated as 30 dB(A).
A more sensitive capsule with a few dB lower noise of 26 dB(A) is the WM-61A. It outputs a maximum 5 Vpp at about 134 dB SPL.

I first learned about the microphone modification from Lyman Miller, Palo Alto, a friend and former colleague at HP, who does some of the most natural sounding recording I have heard.
The wiring diagram for a stereo microphone with output attenuator, if needed, and using the modified capsules is shown on the microph2.gif page. Attenuation of the microphone output degrades the signal to noise ratio and should only be used, when the preamplifier gain can not be reduced.
A discussion of microphone issues can be found at the MicDIYers forum."
This came from http://www.linkwitzlab.com/sys_test.htm if anyone wants to read more. Also there are some pictures and schematics there.

DD
 
Thanks for the article Don. I don't know if I'm up to a mod like that. I might try it as is, and if I'm not happy I might try this.

I wonder if the resistors and capacitors have an effect on SPL it will handle?

Taylor
 
Zeke,
No I think the max SPL relates to the capsule itself. I plan on building a pair of these in the normal and modified versions. We'll see.

DD
 
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